Next model A3

I always use voice control and if it is a good system then it works really well. I believe the new cars will even adjust the temp etc via voice control.

I never use it, hate voice command, I like living in quiet and not having to listen to my own voice :)
 
Buttons are entirely different because they require less hand eye coordination, unlike touch screens. I hazard guess over the next five years we will see a huge rise in crashes and eventually, they will figure out it was due to the drivers playing with their touch screens. To me, the over reliance on these screens to operate so much in vehicles is way more concerning than say something like Coronavirus.

Not when entering a postcode you still had to scroll using the volume control if I remember right - Don't get me wrong I think the current MMI is actually perfect but time moves on I'm afraid
 
Can now configure the new A3 on the iOS app (and I’m guessing the website too).

My spots:

Sline seems to have lost the flat bottomed wheel (now an optional extra).

Folding mirrors now standard

As there is no tech pack because VC is now standard wireless charging is now an optional extra.

It doesn’t seem to have the seats the one in the carwow video had.

The nets on back on front seats and charger on the back is an optional extra

Side air bags are an optional extra, surely a mistake?

Still no option for heated windscreen and can only get heated seats with comfort and sound pack, crazy for a new car. The Mrs got them with her Corsa 5 years ago.


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Can now configure the new A3 on the iOS app (and I’m guessing the website too).

My spots:

Sline seems to have lost the flat bottomed wheel (now an optional extra).

Folding mirrors now standard

As there is no tech pack because VC is now standard wireless charging is now an optional extra.

It doesn’t seem to have the seats the one in the carwow video had.

The nets on back on front seats and charger on the back is an optional extra

Side air bags are an optional extra, surely a mistake?

Still no option for heated windscreen and can only get heated seats with comfort and sound pack, crazy for a new car. The Mrs got them with her Corsa 5 years ago.


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Got to go for the Edition 1 or Vorsprung to get Flat Bottomed Wheel as standard - Assume S3 will get it though - Edition 1 and Vorsprung have lots of standard kit that isn't an option yet including Memory Seats and the Diamond Stitching on the seats
 
Not when entering a postcode you still had to scroll using the volume control if I remember right - Don't get me wrong I think the current MMI is actually perfect but time moves on I'm afraid

Thats still a button, it has physical movement...thats the point. Its the point where the brain engages what it is doing without eye contact etc..
 
Buttons are entirely different because they require less hand eye coordination, unlike touch screens. I hazard guess over the next five years we will see a huge rise in crashes and eventually, they will figure out it was due to the drivers playing with their touch screens. To me, the over reliance on these screens to operate so much in vehicles is way more concerning than say something like Coronavirus.

But then push for autonomous cars, stating people are incapable of driving.

TBH I suspect a lot of young people would welcome autonomous cars, as they can't be @r5ed to do anything for themselves. Letting the car drive itself while being able to stay glued to their smart phones.
 
But then push for autonomous cars, stating people are incapable of driving.

TBH I suspect a lot of young people would welcome autonomous cars, as they can't be @r5ed to do anything for themselves. Letting the car drive itself while being able to stay glued to their smart phones.

I totally agree with autonomous cars, especially for motorway driving.

The UK roads are nothing like they used to be, a trip from London to Livrepool used to take 3 and a bit hours, now it can take double that. So if a car wants to do all that traffic jam, speed restriction, blah blah work for me, I am well up for it...and to be fair, some of the atrocious driving I see on a daily basis, a computer can easily do it better and safer, without doubt.
 
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I totally agree with autonomous cars, especially for motorway driving.

The UK roads are nothing like they used to be, a trip from London to Livrepool used to take 3 and a bit hours, now it can take double that. So if a car wants to do all that traffic jam, speed restriction, blah blah work for me, I am well up for it...and to be fair, some of the atrocious driving I see on a daily basis, a computer can easily do it better and safer, without doubt.

I still don't agree with it. Yes motorway driving can be a pain, but I much prefer to be in total control.

Driving test should be much tougher, and I'd be all for re-sits every few years. Standard of driving is atrocious these days. Plus, far to many cars on the road.
 
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I still don't agree with it. Yes motorway driving can be a pain, but I much prefer to be in total control.

Driving test should be much tougher, and I'd be all for re-sits every few years. Standard of driving is atrocious these days. Plus, far to many cars on the road.

A human 'gets tired', a computer dosen't. So all those cars on the road, the traffic jams, the bad driving, all adds to overall fatigue of a driver, so you may not be in 'control' as much as you'd like to think you are after a while. A computer is always ON in 100% capacity (unless its faulty, whereas you would be alerted to this so to not be able to use it)

I feel the driving test is pretty tough, but voting for re-sits is just a way to basically tax poorer people, completely unfair. Cars on the road...well yes, but thats political :)
 
I still don't agree with it. Yes motorway driving can be a pain, but I much prefer to be in total control.

Driving test should be much tougher, and I'd be all for re-sits every few years. Standard of driving is atrocious these days. Plus, far to many cars on the road.

Autonomous cars - awfu
A human 'gets tired', a computer dosen't. So all those cars on the road, the traffic jams, the bad driving, all adds to overall fatigue of a driver, so you may not be in 'control' as much as you'd like to think you are after a while.

I feel the driving test is pretty tough, but voting for re-sits is just a way to basically tax poorer people, completely unfair. Cars on the road...well yes, but thats political :)

Will only work when all cars are autonomous imo as otherwise they will never be able to cope with the sudden changes that manual drivers could make - And what if the computer network goes down - chaos surely - It's bad enough when the atm's fail can you imagine a road network computer failure

It's coming though just like touchscreens and we won't be able to stop it so we will have to embrace change but personally I really hope I'm no longer driving when it gets to that stage fully
 
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Will only work when all cars are autonomous imo as otherwise they will never be able to cope with the sudden changes that manual drivers could make - And what if the computer network goes down - chaos surely - It's bad enough when the atm's fail can you imagine a road network computer failure

It's coming though just like touchscreens and we won't be able to stop it so we will have to embrace change but personally I really hope I'm no longer driving when it gets to that stage fully

I think there are different levels of autonomous cars. ACC, Lane Assist etc is already working very well. Once all cars get that and the extras like GPS speed etc, its extremely valuable, and does not tire like a human. I agree computers can go wrong, but for me personally they are becoming from more safer. My pre-sense only the other day braked the car quicker than I did when a pillock lept out in front of me in inches to spare. It was late, I had had a long day, there was another idiot on my other side trying to come into my lane , therefore reactions naturally will be slower and can be focused on other things - no one is immune from fatigue and tiredness, its a human trait. Thinking you are immune to this is a dangerous mindset, and one that does cause collisions.
 
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I think there are different levels of autonomous cars. ACC, Lane Assist etc is already working very well. Once all cars get that and the extras like GPS speed etc, its extremely valuable, and does not tire like a human. I agree computers can go wrong, but for me personally they are becoming from more safer. My pre-sense only the other day braked the car quicker than I did when a pillock lept out in front of me in inches to spare. It was late, I had had a long day, there was another idiot on my other side trying to come into my lane , therefore reactions naturally will be slower and can be focused on other things - no one is immune from fatigue and tiredness, its a human trait. Thinking you are immune to this is a dangerous mindset, and one that does cause collisions.

The problem with Lane assist, and brake avoidance, is people then rely on it, and basically switch off while driving. Take the driving away from the driver, and the drivers mind is elsewhere. "The car will sort it out".

But as Sparks43 says, I too hope I'm no longer driving when it all fully kicks in. Sadly I'll still be driving when EV's are the only new car you can buy. I'll enjoy sat at charging stations in a line of cars awaiting to charge up for 45 minutes.

Change is being forced on us. We just need to get used to it.
 
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The problem with Lane assist, and brake avoidance, is people then rely on it, and basically switch off while driving. Take the driving away from the driver, and the drivers mind is elsewhere. "The car will sort it out".

But as Sparks43 says, I too hope I'm no longer driving when it all fully kicks in. Sadly I'll still be driving when EV's are the only new car you can buy. I'll enjoy sat at charging stations in a line of cars awaiting to charge up for 45 minutes.

Change is being forced on us. We just need to get used to it.

Is there neccesarily anything wrong with the car 'sorting it out'?.

I see what you are saying though, but this is the point of the evolution of autonomous cars, theres more work to be done, but on a whole, I am massively in support. I know sure as hell I wished both those cars the other day where using computer controls and not human.

By then anyway, the UK will just be gridlocked anyway, so average speeds will be 20mph!
 
The problem with Lane assist, and brake avoidance, is people then rely on it, and basically switch off while driving. Take the driving away from the driver, and the drivers mind is elsewhere. "The car will sort it out".

But as Sparks43 says, I too hope I'm no longer driving when it all fully kicks in. Sadly I'll still be driving when EV's are the only new car you can buy. I'll enjoy sat at charging stations in a line of cars awaiting to charge up for 45 minutes.

Change is being forced on us. We just need to get used to it.
I had lane assist and the self braking on my Focus never relied upon it nor did it get used/activated
 
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I had lane assist and the self braking on my Focus never relied upon it nor did it get used/activated

If they can be switched off, then that's a good thing. The Fiesta ST I test drove had lane assist activated (which I didn't realise at first) and every time I went to overtake, the steering wheel tugged. Though it was Torque steer at first. Car felt awful. Once I figured out lane assist was on, then duly switched it off, the car was far better to drive.

Brake assist on my old MK7 Golf was ridiculous. Slamming the brakes when there really wasn't any need to.

Yet for certain drivers (who really shouldn't have a licence anyway) I'm sure they help. Example. I once witnessed a rear end shunt in front of me. Battered old Mk1 Focus. Slammed into the car in front. Driver (woman) (Fat woman) gets out, and she's wearing those stupid huge Tiger foot slippers. I mean, come on. How could anyone think they are in control of a car when their entire footwear on one foot covers all of the pedals at the same time?

That's the kind of driver who should be banned off the road. Less twits like them on the road, and we won't need for cars to drive themselves.
 
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I still don't agree with it. Yes motorway driving can be a pain, but I much prefer to be in total control.

Driving test should be much tougher, and I'd be all for re-sits every few years. Standard of driving is atrocious these days. Plus, far to many cars on the road.
It seems everyone on the planet except me has stopped indicating. The number of twunts turning left on a r/bout without letting me know is appalling!

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It seems everyone on the planet except me has stopped indicating. The number of twunts turning left on a r/bout without letting me know is appalling!

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So your the person who keeps indicating it's so last year lol

I agree with you though, I was behind somebody yesterday who just braked and turned off - I'm not a mind reader
 
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Interior door trim around the windows has gone. Just bare painted metal to look at now. Probably another of the things they think people won't really care about...
 
It seems everyone on the planet except me has stopped indicating. The number of twunts turning left on a r/bout without letting me know is appalling!

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And me. My biggest pet hate is people turning right on a round-about, yet don't indicate right. Just wizz round the round-about, then blast their horn when the other driver had no idea they were turning right, because the little flashy light that would normally inform other road users, wasn't flashing.

I do put some of it down to lack of manual cars. With a manual your arm / hand is moving to change gear. So easy to then flick the indicator at the same time. But now Auto's are becoming the norm, people's left arms arm stuck to the armrest, so no doubt they can't be bothered to move it to indicate.

And if you see some of the wide boys driving along. Sat on one butt check leaning to one side, like they're some kind of Gangsta rapper or something.

I'd love to be a traffic cop. I'd be pulling people over all day. Better still if I had the power to ban them. I'd be getting people banned left right and centre for poor driving standard.
 
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And me. My biggest pet hate is people turning right on a round-about, yet don't indicate right. Just wizz round the round-about, then blast their horn when the other driver had no idea they were turning right, because the little flashy light that would normally inform other road users, wasn't flashing.

I do put some of it down to lack of manual cars. With a manual your arm / hand is moving to change gear. So easy to then flick the indicator at the same time. But now Auto's are becoming the norm, people's left arms arm stuck to the armrest, so no doubt they can't be bothered to move it to indicate.

And if you see some of the wide boys driving along. Sat on one butt check leaning to one side, like they're some kind of Gangsta rapper or something.

I'd love to be a traffic cop. I'd be pulling people over all day. Better still if I had the power to ban them. I'd be getting people banned left right and centre for poor driving standard.

I hate this leaning to one side when driving - What is that all about - I'd end up with a bad back or crooked neck - might be an age thing but never did it when I was 18 - Mind you with no power steering on my cars in the late 80's you needed both hands on the wheel and sit up straight to drive it - 1977 Ford Cortina was a workout sometimes in itself
 
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A human 'gets tired', a computer dosen't. So all those cars on the road, the traffic jams, the bad driving, all adds to overall fatigue of a driver, so you may not be in 'control' as much as you'd like to think you are after a while. A computer is always ON in 100% capacity (unless its faulty, whereas you would be alerted to this so to not be able to use it)

I feel the driving test is pretty tough, but voting for re-sits is just a way to basically tax poorer people, completely unfair. Cars on the road...well yes, but thats political :)


Autonomous cars??? all comes down to who writes the software.....humans, and they are prone to making mistakes. I had a hire car ( Volvo XC 60) brand new with many glitches with auto braking and ACC. and no error alerts. An alert experienced driver is also more able to make corrections in steering inputs than any car computer in adverse conditions....opposite lock steering in adverse conditions, foot off the brake whilst skidding, and not to steer into a bunch of pedestrians in crash avoidance maneuvers.
 
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I didn't , but you got muddled up in what you where trying to say, so you actually argued against yourself in your own paragraph. It chuckled me.
Mistakes in the software as I read it.

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Mistakes in the software as I read it.

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Lol, quite. But you can't argue that humans make mistakes in one instance, but then that they don't in the next. Which was my initial point. Which is more reliable? a tired human or a computer written by a human thats not tired?
 
Lol, quite. But you can't argue that humans make mistakes in one instance, but then that they don't in the next. Which was my initial point. Which is more reliable? a tired human or a computer written by a human thats not tired?

You still do not get what I am trying to state.....Computers make mistakes also...bad code entered by a human or do the wrong programmed avoidance maneuvers that a human would not do, as I detailed. Computers do not get tired but they are prone to crash or be hacked.
 
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You still do not get what I am trying to state.....Computers make mistakes also...bad code entered by a human or do the wrong programmed avoidance maneuvers that a human would not do, as I detailed. Computers do not get tired but they are prone to crash or be hacked.

Yes I know exactly what you are stating, it isn't rocket science.

What you are missing was the irony of your statement, which I addressed in my previous post.

It's not worth arguing about, but you do need to think outside of your box a little. I for one choose a computer over the chav wearing slippers in a battered old Fiesta plowing down the road at 90mph with a fag in one hand a can of Red Bull in the other which chatting away on bluetooth and her music blaring.
 
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If they can be switched off, then that's a good thing. The Fiesta ST I test drove had lane assist activated (which I didn't realise at first) and every time I went to overtake, the steering wheel tugged. Though it was Torque steer at first. Car felt awful. Once I figured out lane assist was on, then duly switched it off, the car was far better to drive.

Brake assist on my old MK7 Golf was ridiculous. Slamming the brakes when there really wasn't any need to.

Yet for certain drivers (who really shouldn't have a licence anyway) I'm sure they help. Example. I once witnessed a rear end shunt in front of me. Battered old Mk1 Focus. Slammed into the car in front. Driver (woman) (Fat woman) gets out, and she's wearing those stupid huge Tiger foot slippers. I mean, come on. How could anyone think they are in control of a car when their entire footwear on one foot covers all of the pedals at the same time?

That's the kind of driver who should be banned off the road. Less twits like them on the road, and we won't need for cars to drive themselves.

If you had bothered to indicate it wouldn't have tugged ;-)
 
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Problem with the self driving stuff is unless everyone has it and it can communicate, it will never be a good system.

All it takes is one idiot not concentrating and all the glitches and oversights in the programming of the system fails to save you or your car

And until we live in a country where the lowest paid workers can afford new cars with all this tech, it’ll never work better than it does now imo
 
Absolute joke that the car is full of pointless trinkets yet side airbags are an option.

Can it get a decent ncap score without them as standard?
 
Problem with the self driving stuff is unless everyone has it and it can communicate, it will never be a good system.

All it takes is one idiot not concentrating and all the glitches and oversights in the programming of the system fails to save you or your car

And until we live in a country where the lowest paid workers can afford new cars with all this tech, it’ll never work better than it does now imo

It dosent no, if you read my earlier above, it actually prevented a crash because of an idiot not concentrating.

I am not saying its not fault proof, but I definitely think its very good.
 
Mr. Dubjam, you obviously are a rude individual who has very preconceived ideas of how to listen/read to a different point of view, as has been shown on numerous posts you have made over the last few days. Please grow up.
 
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Mr. Dubjam, you obviously are a rude individual who has very preconceived ideas of how to listen/read to a different point of view, as has been shown on numerous posts you have made over the last few days. Please grow up.

Lol, I just tell it like it is, don't be offended because you don't understand things sometimes.
 
It dosent no, if you read my earlier above, it actually prevented a crash because of an idiot not concentrating.

I am not saying its not fault proof, but I definitely think its very good.

I think you’re missing the point mate, of course the systems work, otherwise they wouldn’t be standard features, in 90% of new cars...

It’s just that they only work under very specific circumstances, I know people who’ve not been paying attention and have gone into the back of someone because their auto braking system didn’t kick in. Surely everyone’s seen the videos of people testing their auto braking and ending up crashing into walls, cars and people stupid enough to stand infront of a moving car...

In the next 15 odd years when all new cars are electric, this stuff will be miles better, just look at 5 year old tech vs today’s...
 
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Pricing and configuration is live in Audi.co.uk now . Limited models for the moment but apparently Edition 1 and Vorsprung models to be announced in the coming weeks .

Meanwhile couldn't help myself, configured a 2.0 TDI S-tronic with comfort and sounds pack. Mythos Black. Now what to do with the existing car finance
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I think you’re missing the point mate, of course the systems work, otherwise they wouldn’t be standard features, in 90% of new cars...

It’s just that they only work under very specific circumstances, I know people who’ve not been paying attention and have gone into the back of someone because their auto braking system didn’t kick in. Surely everyone’s seen the videos of people testing their auto braking and ending up crashing into walls, cars and people stupid enough to stand infront of a moving car...

In the next 15 odd years when all new cars are electric, this stuff will be miles better, just look at 5 year old tech vs today’s...

..and more numbers of people not concentrating and crashing etc...although I accept not an equal equation as not all vehicles have this tech yet. I think I did say earlier though, that has this all progresses things will get infinitely better, and this is why I support autonomous cars , which is where this side debate stemmed from.
 
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Pricing and configuration is live in Audi.co.uk now . Limited models for the moment but apparently Edition 1 and Vorsprung models to be announced in the coming weeks .

Meanwhile couldn't help myself, configured a 2.0 TDI S-tronic with comfort and sounds pack. Mythos Black. Now what to do with the existing car finance
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Ya gotta wait till the Black Edition comes out surely...
 

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