ASR exhaust valve controller

[8YARWY]

ASR Klappensteuerung CB2 RS3 8Y Flap Control Valve Module

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[HulkRS3]

I don't see the point in having them controlled personally, the car isn't loud enough to negate the need for valves anyway so fully open works fine for me. Especially at that price :O

 

[8YARWY]

I don't see the point in having them controlled personally, the car isn't loud enough to negate the need for valves anyway so fully open works fine for me. Especially at that price :O

Leaves errors in the engine module using blanking plugs plus it pulls power, but I’ve already said that.

If anyone goes into audi they better make sure they can clear any errors logged 1st.


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[CarterRS]

I don't see the point in having them controlled personally, the car isn't loud enough to negate the need for valves anyway so fully open works fine for me. Especially at that price :O

Exactly my thoughts, if mines goes into audi I will just re connect them and play dumb to any errors. Its not unusual for random errors to flag up.

The quickest 0-60 time I've had was with the blanking plugs in. I'm not sure how much power it really pulls but I definitely haven't noticed any.

 

[8YARWY]

Exactly my thoughts, if mines goes into audi I will just re connect them and play dumb to any errors. Its not unusual for random errors to flag up.

The quickest 0-60 time I've had was with the blanking plugs in. I'm not sure how much power it really pulls but I definitely haven't noticed any.

ETTO.


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[CarterRS]

ETTO.


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Love the idea of a valve controller but when the car is quiet pretty much all the time it just seems abit of a waste of money and they aren't cheap either

 

[Mike.46]

Exactly my thoughts, if mines goes into audi I will just re connect them and play dumb to any errors. Its not unusual for random errors to flag up.

The quickest 0-60 time I've had was with the blanking plugs in. I'm not sure how much power it really pulls but I definitely haven't noticed any.

If they trick the ecu into thinking the valves are still connected there shouldnt be any power reduction

 

[8YARWY]

If they trick the ecu into thinking the valves are still connected there shouldnt be any power reduction

As long as they were plugged in without the canbus being active that is.

If they are unplugged with the car running it’ll log the error in engine ECU


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[HulkRS3]

How is that possible on the 8Y as the valves only move when the engine is on?

 

[PaulBCN]

Does anyone here have the ASR CB2 fitted?

I've fitted one today but it doesn't seem to do anything and I'm just wondering if I've missed anything important before I contact them tomorrow.

I bought the SSA-memory version but haven't fitted the extra SSA wire yet.

 

[8YARWY]

Does anyone here have the ASR CB2 fitted?

I've fitted one today but it doesn't seem to do anything and I'm just wondering if I've missed anything important before I contact them tomorrow.

I bought the SSA-memory version but haven't fitted the extra SSA wire yet.

If you have left hand drive harness sent by mistake it won’t work.

You can turn it on / off by holding the button in on the cruise stalk end for 10secs.

Alternatively it’ll open them both if you flick gear lever into S.


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[PaulBCN]

If you have left hand drive harness sent by mistake it won’t work.

You can turn it on / off by holding the button in on the cruise stalk end for 10secs.

Alternatively it’ll open them both if you flick gear lever into S.


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I have a left-hand drive RS3 so ordered the left-hand drive version (but you just made me go back the invoice and check just in case hahaha).

This is the strange thing. Before fitting the box, the valves always opened (slightly?) when flicking it into S. But now, when I put it into S it seems to sound much more obnoxious which would indicate that they are being fully opened now... up to here, all good...

But...I can't seem to get anything to happen when I "double click" the ESC button (apart from turning on or off accidentally ESC). Also, if I hold down the SET button on the cruise stalk for 10 or more seconds, absolutely nothing happens. I read the instructions and it should indicate activation/deactivation by cycling the values on/off a few times, but I can't hear anything.

Does it require a slow double tap on the ESC button, or a really quick one?

 

[8YARWY]

I have a left-hand drive RS3 so ordered the left-hand drive version (but you just made me go back the invoice and check just in case hahaha).

This is the strange thing. Before fitting the box, the valves always opened (slightly?) when flicking it into S. But now, when I put it into S it seems to sound much more obnoxious which would indicate that they are being fully opened now... up to here, all good...

But...I can't seem to get anything to happen when I "double click" the ESC button (apart from turning on or off accidentally ESC). Also, if I hold down the SET button on the cruise stalk for 10 or more seconds, absolutely nothing happens. I read the instructions and it should indicate activation/deactivation by cycling the values on/off a few times, but I can't hear anything.

Does it require a slow double tap on the ESC button, or a really quick one?

Earth connected to the post terminal correctly ?


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[PaulBCN]

Earth connected to the post terminal correctly ?


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This was going to be my next question to you as it seems to be the only thing that could go wrong.

I removed the nut, fitted the earth ring over the stud and on top of the white plastic washer thingy, just using the base of the nut to make contact with the earth ring of the ASR box when it is tightened. It didn't seem like a very good way of doing it but I watched their video and this is exactly what they recommend doing I think - it's difficult to make out exactly.

 

[8YARWY]

I have a left-hand drive RS3 so ordered the left-hand drive version (but you just made me go back the invoice and check just in case hahaha).

This is the strange thing. Before fitting the box, the valves always opened (slightly?) when flicking it into S. But now, when I put it into S it seems to sound much more obnoxious which would indicate that they are being fully opened now... up to here, all good...

But...I can't seem to get anything to happen when I "double click" the ESC button (apart from turning on or off accidentally ESC). Also, if I hold down the SET button on the cruise stalk for 10 or more seconds, absolutely nothing happens. I read the instructions and it should indicate activation/deactivation by cycling the values on/off a few times, but I can't hear anything.

Does it require a slow double tap on the ESC button, or a really quick one?

Left hand drive loom

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[PaulBCN]

Left hand drive loom

That looks exactly like mine did. Not sure how to tell the difference between a LHD and RHD loom though to be honest.

 

[Adam.Fleetwood]

This was going to be my next question to you as it seems to be the only thing that could go wrong.

I removed the nut, fitted the earth ring over the stud and on top of the white plastic washer thingy, just using the base of the nut to make contact with the earth ring of the ASR box when it is tightened. It didn't seem like a very good way of doing it but I watched their video and this is exactly what they recommend doing I think - it's difficult to make out exactly.

You said before you haven’t connected the SSA wire yet so isn’t that why?


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[8YARWY]

You said before you haven’t connected the SSA wire yet so isn’t that why?


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Doesn’t matter has no effect.


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[Adam.Fleetwood]

Sound. If you have the ignition on (valves closed) then either hold the cruise set button or press esc twice will that open them ready for starting the engine?


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[8YARWY]

That looks exactly like mine did. Not sure how to tell the difference between a LHD and RHD loom though to be honest.

If you’ve a multimeter test the earth wire just to make sure.

But yes top nut off and ring connector onto the thread, there’s a cutout in the nylon ring for the wire to sit into, domed nut back on.


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[8YARWY]

Sound. If you have the ignition on (valves closed) then either hold the cruise set button or press esc twice will that open them ready for starting the engine?


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Cruise stalk towards you twice or ESC button 2 presses not fast / slow just normal press one after the other.

Holding the cruise stalk end button for 10 secs cycles it off or on, you’ll know as the flaps open and close several times in quick succession to acknowledge it.


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[PaulBCN]

If you’ve a multimeter test the earth wire just to make sure.

But yes top nut off and ring connector onto the thread, there’s a cutout in the nylon ring for the wire to sit into, domed nut back on.


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Yep - exactly as I did it then. I also used the cutout to position the crimp terminal. I will check continuity when I get a chance as you suggest, just to be sure.

 

[itsbigyellow]

I always pull the cruise control stalk towards me twice and that toggles the valves ( usually off because I use the Drive Select to turn it on). I Had the SSA wire, but bottled out of wiring it in because it started to look a bit complicated. Everything works great and I wouldn't be without it. Hope you work it out !

 

[PaulBCN]

Cruise stalk towards you twice or ESC button 2 presses not fast / slow just normal press one after the other.

Holding the cruise stalk end button for 10 secs cycles it off or on, you’ll know as the flaps open and close several times in quick succession to acknowledge it.


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And what happens if you double press it "quick as f**k"? Does it still work, or not? Because that's generally how I was doing it.

In the instructions, it mentions that the cruise stalk "CANCEL" function must be used twice, but that is AWAY from you, not towards you. Towards you is the RESUME function. Can you confirm if it really should be towards you instead of away from you for it to work (i.e. are there instructions wrong?).

Either way, holding the SET button for 10 seconds doesn't do anything for me... with both cruise activated or deactivated..

 

[PaulBCN]

I always pull the cruise control stalk towards me twice and that toggles the valves ( usually off because I use the Drive Select to turn it on). I Had the SSA wire, but bottled out of wiring it in because it started to look a bit complicated. Everything works great and I wouldn't be without it. Hope you work it out !

Thanks. Again... you mentioned pulling the stalk towards you, but their instructions mentioned using CANCEL twice which is away from you.
That's two of you confirming the same thing so it looks like their instructions are wrong.

I might just go down to the parking now and test it

 

[itsbigyellow]

Thanks. Again... you mentioned pulling the stalk towards you, but their instructions mentioned using CANCEL twice which is away from you.
That's two of you confirming the same thing so it looks like their instructions are wrong.

I might just go down to the parking now and test it

Setting it to an RS mode should definitely open the valves, if that's not working then you have a problem

 

[8YARWY]

Thanks. Again... you mentioned pulling the stalk towards you, but their instructions mentioned using CANCEL twice which is away from you.
That's two of you confirming the same thing so it looks like their instructions are wrong.

I might just go down to the parking now and test it

I’ve always flicked it towards me , natural movement to engage it / disengage it.

Works perfectly this way.

The only other thing is have they sent a RHD loom by mistake.
This is what happened to me by the way, and it didn’t work at all, but it did bring a few errors up on the VC too.


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[PaulBCN]

Ok guys. Just been down to the car and all sorted.

It was my ****** German when reading their website. They mention "reset button" (not Cancel as I thought which is away from you), but I think they meant resume button. And trying it in the garage it was much easier to hear the valves click open/closed.

Yes - pulling the cruise lever towards you twice works perfectly but of course you can only hear the difference when revving. I couldn't hear the valves switching when outside earlier today so thought nothing was happening.

And yes - turning the ESC on and then back off again calmly also works perfectly. If you double click too fast (or even slightly fast) then nothing happens. That was definitely where I was going wrong.

In fact I was so happy that I completely forget to deactivate the module and test it. I was previously listening for a change in engine note, but this will only be noticeable in Dynamic or RS Modes I guess. When I previously tested it in Auto, you can't hear any change but in the garage I could hear the click of the valves (which of course you can't hear when out in the open).

Thanks so much for your help @8YARWY , @itsbigyellow & @Adam.Fleetwood

 

[itsbigyellow]

Ok guys. Just been down to the car and all sorted.

It was my ****** German when reading their website. They mention "reset button" (not Cancel as I thought which is away from you), but I think they meant resume button. And trying it in the garage it was much easier to hear the valves click open/closed.

Yes - pulling the cruise lever towards you twice works perfectly but of course you can only hear the difference when revving. I couldn't hear the valves switching when outside earlier today so thought nothing was happening.

And yes - turning the ESC on and then back off again calmly also works perfectly. If you double click too fast (or even slightly fast) then nothing happens. That was definitely where I was going wrong.

In fact I was so happy that I completely forget to deactivate the module and test it. I was previously listening for a change in engine note, but this will only be noticeable in Dynamic or RS Modes I guess. When I previously tested it in Auto, you can't hear any change but in the garage I could hear the click of the valves (which of course you can't hear when out in the open).

Thanks so much for your help @8YARWY , @itsbigyellow & @Adam.Fleetwood

Glad you are sorted fella - enjoy, it made the car so much better for me

 

[8YARWY]

Ok guys. Just been down to the car and all sorted.

It was my ****** German when reading their website. They mention "reset button" (not Cancel as I thought which is away from you), but I think they meant resume button. And trying it in the garage it was much easier to hear the valves click open/closed.

Yes - pulling the cruise lever towards you twice works perfectly but of course you can only hear the difference when revving. I couldn't hear the valves switching when outside earlier today so thought nothing was happening.

And yes - turning the ESC on and then back off again calmly also works perfectly. If you double click too fast (or even slightly fast) then nothing happens. That was definitely where I was going wrong.

In fact I was so happy that I completely forget to deactivate the module and test it. I was previously listening for a change in engine note, but this will only be noticeable in Dynamic or RS Modes I guess. When I previously tested it in Auto, you can't hear any change but in the garage I could hear the click of the valves (which of course you can't hear when out in the open).

Thanks so much for your help @8YARWY , @itsbigyellow & @Adam.Fleetwood

Enjoy the extra noise……..

Mine was in at the Audi dealer this week for a warranty issue, I left the ASR active……they never said anything, and I know they connect Odis to it when a warranty claim is started.

So undetected.


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[garethdj]

So what’s the consensus here, is this module worth it? I’m going to get a new exhaust but this might be good in the interim and I like the idea of being able to control the valves until the ECU is unlocked.

Also if I selected dynamic engine/ pronounced exhaust in RS individual mode (current setup) does this module detect that and keep the valves open? I like to use this mode as I can have the suspension in comfort.


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[itsbigyellow]

So what’s the consensus here, is this module worth it? I’m going to get a new exhaust but this might be good in the interim and I like the idea of being able to control the valves until the ECU is unlocked.

Also if I selected dynamic engine/ pronounced exhaust in RS individual mode (current setup) does this module detect that and keep the valves open? I like to use this mode as I can have the suspension in comfort.


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The simple answer to your second question is yes - absolutely and that is exactly how I have mine setup. The answer to your first is subjective of course, but it's a perfect amount of noise for me. Enough to make it a better experience but not too much that makes you look a 22-year-old running around with a dustbin attached to a Fiesta.

 

[8YARWY]

So what’s the consensus here, is this module worth it? I’m going to get a new exhaust but this might be good in the interim and I like the idea of being able to control the valves until the ECU is unlocked.

Also if I selected dynamic engine/ pronounced exhaust in RS individual mode (current setup) does this module detect that and keep the valves open? I like to use this mode as I can have the suspension in comfort.


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Safe option imho better than just ‘unplugging’ the connectors and having the car pull power, because it’s not sure what’s going on with them, plus if it ever went into Audi and they connect it to Odis it’ll get flagged up and I’d imagine questions would be asked.

It’s a no brainer really, safe for the car, no errors in running one, you can make the car quiet when needs be or go full open when pushing things.


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[PaulBCN]

So what’s the consensus here, is this module worth it? I’m going to get a new exhaust but this might be good in the interim and I like the idea of being able to control the valves until the ECU is unlocked.

Also if I selected dynamic engine/ pronounced exhaust in RS individual mode (current setup) does this module detect that and keep the valves open? I like to use this mode as I can have the suspension in comfort.


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OK so now I know how it actually works I must say that I'm really happy with it.

The exhaust note now in Dynamic is really quite loud (for an 8Y!). The upshift fart is louder and the downshifts (in S mode) are pretty addictive.

Even in Auto mode and with D selected, on opening the valves (double pull on cruise lever), the noise really opens up and it sounds much throatier. And then just close them again when on the motorway and you're back to normal, nice and quiet(ish).

They are arguably expensive but really well made (all OEM connectors etc) and installation is a breeze (the typical 40 minutes the first time you do it, but you could do a second one in 10 minutes flat) and completely undetectable. Nothing to see.

I would find it hard to imagine any RS3 driver that wouldn't prefer to have one of these fitted. They definitely restore some of the fun factor.

 

[RSt3ve]

I've done around 800 miles with mine fitted now and I couldn't be happier. One of the neighbours has asked what I've done to it so it must sound louder! It's just made the car more like what it should be below 3.5k and cruising speed sounds lovely.
No error codes on VCDS either so all good.

 

[callumogrady]

Is there any need/advantages to get the ASR CB2 as opposed to the RX1 with the remote? Pretty confident they're going to be open all of the time...

 

[RSt3ve]

Is there any need/advantages to get the ASR CB2 as opposed to the RX1 with the remote? Pretty confident they're going to be open all of the time...

I went for CB2 for the lack of remote, seems unnecessary in this day and age.

 

[Mike.46]

I went for CB2 for the lack of remote, seems unnecessary in this day and age.

I'm surprised it didnt have the obligatory phone app

 

[8YARWY]

I went for CB2 for the lack of remote, seems unnecessary in this day and age.

Agree with this...........

Would rather not have extra remotes on the key-ring.....

But like all these these things it boils down to the ££ saved if you aren't overly fussed.

 

[callumogrady]

I went for CB2 for the lack of remote, seems unnecessary in this day and age.

Cheers, and Stop/Start memory is functioning as well? No need to run additional wires up the dash?