2.0 TDI wont start

[ikobek]

Hello! İ was in abroad for 3 days-travelled 600km.Everything was ok with my car. Today i started it and after 3/4 seconds it passed out. Then i tried again to start but it wont to start. Everything is ok with the board. No alerts. İ didnt recieved any alerts before it. The engine is turning but it cant start. İ checked the fuel pump. The fuel come to the fuel filter without problem. İ checked the EGR too. İt wasnt full. İ dont have VCDS and cant check for failures.
Please give some advices. What should i check?

 

[SootySport]

Immobiliser? I've had these symptons before, starts and runs for 3 secs. and then cuts out, then unable to start at all. Daughter also had this on a Corsa and was the immobilser again. Try your spare key first and see if it starts.

 

[ikobek]

İ tried with the both keys. Still the same situation But before this i drived with the second key too. We were together with my friend and he drived with the second key. Maybe it caused the problem.

 

[ikobek]

No ideas?

 

[SootySport]

Could be anything if it's not the key, I can only suggest a visit to VAG specialist for a VCDS check.

 

[ikobek]

The results from VCDS

Thursday,16,April,2015,15:45:07:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.0.0
Data version: 20130910


VIN: WAUZZZ8E17A037836 License Plate:
Mileage: 153300km-95256mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
67 69 75 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ8E17A037836 Mileage: 153300km/95256miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BPW.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 LQ HW: 03G 906 016 KP
Component: R4 2,0L EDC 200CG 1717
Revision: --H02--- Serial number:
Coding: 0000076
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 7DF11F7F2404B5F6FF5-8028

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01J-927-156.lbl
Part No SW: 8E4 910 155 B HW: 01J 927 156 HT
Component: V30 01J 2.0l PD RdW 0010
Revision: 00000009 Serial number: 00000001044726
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 285F1E2B9B06C05EFC3-807D

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 H HW: 8E0 614 517 BF
Component: ESP8 FRONT H06 0140
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0004402
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 2C57E23B8FFEEC7E18B-8079

1 Fault Found:
01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 5
Reset counter: 40
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x0222
Hex Value: 0x0024
Hex Value: 0x017C
Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 BM
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 2833
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 6DD12F3F276425764F5-5072

1 Fault Found:
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
27-00 - Implausible Signal

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 N
Component: int. Lastmodul ECE 0907
Coding: 10021
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 3D71DF7F378475F6BF5-4A3A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 G HW: 8E0 959 655 G
Component: Airbag 9.41 H12 3730
Revision: 91H12373 Serial number: 0036M0G25ZEH
Coding: 0030612
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 3B75D1677A907BC6811-806E

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB403705328B

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB4035B941DU

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB4015B173FP

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB40165FB73V

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB402826E26N

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB4030A6356H

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 39
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:00


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
Component: Lenksбulenmodul 0701
Coding: 04112
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 4189A38F4B7C1116DBD-4A3A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 931 P HW: 8E0 920 931 P
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H14 0110
Revision: 0110 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0006011
Shop #: WSC 43265 134 173575
VCID: 3561C75F5FB4ADB6775-5072

2 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431)
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 931 P HW: 8E0 920 931 P
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H14 0110
Revision: 0110 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0006011
Shop #: WSC 43265 134 173575
VCID: 3561C75F5FB4ADB6775-5000

2 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01771 - Control Module for Headlight Range (J431)
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 CD
Component: Komfortgerбt T01 4135
Coding: 23392
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 75E1075F4F34EDB6B75-4A3A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801H
Component: Tхrsteuer.FS BRM 0606

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802H
Component: Tхrsteuer.BF BRM 0606

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801E
Component: Tхrsteuer.HL BRM 0606

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802E
Component: Tхrsteuer.HR BRM 0606

2 Faults Found:
00955 - Key 1
35-10 - - - Intermittent
00956 - Key 2
35-00 - -

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: None
VCID: 55A167DFBFF48DB6975-5072


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No fault codes in the engine.
There are two faults
00955 - Key 1
35-10 - - - Intermittent
00956 - Key 2
35-00 - -
I cant understand this.
And this one too
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Its from the imobilizer adress.

 

[SootySport]

I don't have VCDS and don't know how interpret all this, someone on the forum will be along to help you out. A couple of faults -- imobiliser and timing issues are the most likely causes in my eyes. Good luck.

 

[Cyrix]

Terminal 30 is the permanent live feed, are you sure the battery voltage isn't just low.

The engine needs to be cranking above a certain speed before it will fire.

 

[ikobek]

İ think my battery is old. İ didnt had problems when the temperatures were unter 0 Celcius.
İ charged the battery but the problem is the same.
Maybe my battery cant hold a voltage. What should i do? İm with automatic gears and cant move the car.

 

[SootySport]

How old is the battery?

Last December the wifes A3 2.0tdi wouldn't turn over or start as well. There were no warning signs in the weeks before, that the battery was on it's last legs. A quick test with the Voltmeter said it was indeed cream crackered so new battery fitted and all AOK. The battery was the original so must be 8years old and about the life of the normal car battery.

 

[ikobek]

İ cant say how old my battery is. İm the second owner of the car. İt is looking like old. No text or something else.
Did your engine cranked and spined when the battery died was? My engine is cranking very fast and with power. İ know for diesel engine batteries, that when they died,the engine cant turn over. With my old diesel,it was the same.

 

[SootySport]

If the engine spins over fast then you would expect it to be ok. Only testing it with a voltmeter will you be sure it is OK. Should be 12V to 13V.

 

[ikobek]

Finally the problem was solved. It was the immobilizer and closed injectors. I cleared all fault codes wia vcds. Tried again and everything was fine Thanks for the posts