8V S3 Tuning Thread

@AJ Jacob you should not be dissapointed with these results. Every dyno is different if you scan through the threads lots of people have had different dyno results from tuned cars. Thats even with the same modifications / set up. Each car and dyno will throw slightly difference results- Fact. Differences of 10-30bhp happen more often than you might think on the same types of cars.

The thing to remember is the difference between your stock numbers and your MTM Cantronic install.

You posted your stock car @ 285 BHP and 401NM (296 lbs)

Your MTM you posted @ 341 BHP and 494NM

That is very much inline with what MTM quote- 59BHP and 70NM gains. So if you want to just look at the headline numbers you have a greater increase in torque.

These results also clarify that secand hand / used MTM-Cantronic boxes transfered from the same vehicle type ( ie Golf R/ S3/ Cupra R etc) DO NOT require recoding to physically work! Something which has been very much misrepresented / ill advised by certain people/ companies.

Enjoy your car, and dont worry about headline peak numbers.

Jungle

Thanks jungle! Indeed the information that MTM boxes need to be recoded when bought used is very much untrue! Especially when it comes from the same engine or car model. I was informed the boxes would not work without recoding by certain companies which seems untrue now.

Also the previous dyno of 285bhp was from the previous owner jungle and that was WHP. Unfortunately due to lack of time I was unable to do a baseline, which I might do now to get a clear difference in performance.
 
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What's crazy is seeing these results for the hybrid turbo guys getting near mid 7 sec 100-200, the new M140i BMW is getting 8 seconds dead 100-200 times with just a JB4!! Those M140i's do not hang around

That is true. The M140i is really fast. But this is one of the ugliest cars.

Was going to say same Pepper ! :puke2:

But also need remember 3.0 litre 6 pot and rwd... So they have the advantage from the outset.
 
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Any benefit upgrading the HPFP whilst running stage 2 ? - more likely the one by Autotech.
 
Any benefit upgrading the HPFP whilst running stage 2 ? - more likely the one by Autotech.


Would like to know this too as am going straight to stage 2, awesome started selling the autotech internals a few weeks ago


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Had this done today



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Unicorn mate proper happy with it.


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I spoke with Rick today after he mapped this beast, booked in for poverty stg1 only for me though!
Must be epic, enjoy!!!!
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462hp and 580nm

 
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Nice... perhaps the pops&bangs are little too mucho :whistle2:
 
@AJ Jacob - what does it feel like on the road, is the MTM worth it?
I still have 2.5yrs of warranty left so keen on a box solution.
Thanks
 
@AJ Jacob - what does it feel like on the road, is the MTM worth it?
I still have 2.5yrs of warranty left so keen on a box solution.
Thanks

Like a factory upgrade, not dramatic just slightly more everywhere.
 
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Above Dyno (not mine) is APR stage 2 car with stock IC dyno in very hot 36c weather. Same day at track also. This is the new APR stage 2 tune clearly fixed any issues and makes decent gains.

Only mod added over stage 1 here was DP and RS7 spark plugs and gain of 15-20WKW in top end. I'm now booked in tomorrow morning to swap back across.
 
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Ryan's beautiful S3 8V TTE525R at MRC Tuning for software.

Mods & Car Prepared and delivered by D.H Automotive

545PS 686NM (Stock engine)

Spec list :

TTE525R turbo
TTE Turbo muffler delete
Mrc custom turbo intake pipe/ elbow
Wagner Tuning Intercooler
Racingline catch can setup
Racingline vwr600 intake
Ngk racing spark plugs
Auto tech fuel pump internals
Milltek Full exhaust system
4 bar map sensor
Forge Intake silicon hose
99ron fuel
MRC STAGE 3 Custom software

#TTE525R #WAGNER #MRC #DHA






 
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Audi S3 8V 2.0 TFSI USA spec car (Stock motor & clutches)

Etuners Stage5 Software 91Oct fuel (US spec Stock fuel system)

Independent Results from Dynocomp Rolling Road USA.

For 91Oct fuel, in blue, the car produced 401whp in all wheel drive mode.

For 100Oct fuel, in red, the car produced 420whp in all wheel drive mode.

350Ftlbs at 4000RPM. Approx Torque!

Upgrade specifications:

TTE525R Upgrade Turbo & TTE Intake
Leyo Motorsport BOV
Upgraded Exhaust
Etuners Stage 5 ECU remap (remote tuned)
Etuners Stage 3 TCU remap (remote tuned)


#TTEPOWER #ETUNER #TTE525R #LEYO #WHP #USA #MQB #UPGRADE #HYBRID #TURBOCHARGER #TTEFTW


 
AUDI S3 8V SALOON DSG TTE525R

TTE525R Turbo, VWR intake,HG-Motorsport downpipe, autotech fuel pump, SLS Tuning Software, 98 octane
Built by REDRACING China



100-200KMH TESTING



 
Question to the tuned people: how difficult was it to get insurance?

I've spoken to my insurer, and also asked the meerkats and just a remap doesn't seem to be an issue. They're quite happy to insure me for an extra 100 hp for about £4 per month. Once I've declared that, they'll cover a coilover kit, turbo-back down-pipe/exhaust, BBK and new rims for nothing extra.

But if I want a intake kit, or even intake hose - that's a deal breaker. I can't find insurance at any price: "Sorry Sir, we don't cover that type of modification".

I can see intakes and K&Ns being a bit "chav" - but surely I must be speaking to the wrong people, or they are working from tick-boxes that don't quite mean what I expect them to mean. I suppose I need to speak to a proper specialist broker, but I'm not in the immediate market for tuning, so there's no point me wasting their time just yet.
 
Try Sky Insurance or Adrian Flux for modified insurance.

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More clear dyno of Ryans s3

spool is awesome on this car near 650nm at 3500 approx

 
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More clear dyno of Ryans s3

spool is awesome on this car near 650nm at 3500 approx

I cannot believe that the stock engine can handle that much power for a longer time. This is incredible.
 
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I cannot believe that the stock engine can handle that much power for a longer time. This is incredible.
the problem is, the only way to find out is to do this...so big respect to the people pushing the boundaries :superman:
 
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the problem is, the only way to find out is to do this...so big respect to the people pushing the boundaries :superman:
I have done 40.000 km already on 522 pk and 590 nm stock engine.
Turbo at 2.0 bar.
 
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I'm 9 months roughly running around 550hp & 690nm and she's holding together just fine :)
I cannot believe that the stock engine can handle that much power for a longer time. This is incredible.
 
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Mileage on modified cars doesn't really tell you anything to be fair. You may potentially have that power under the throttle pedal and never utilise it so claims of 10/20/30k miles can be misleading.

The cars really need to be abused at those levels to verify longevity. Numerous track days, Autobahn/Runway/Vmax testing at high speed, regular 1/4m drag racing racking up hundreds of launches etc.

You could run 650hp through the engine once, claim the engine is good for 650 and then never spool up the turbo again.

You need a higher sample rate at these power levels and logged track event/high load activities on the engines to verify where the engine sits safely.

300ps designed engine, 100% tolerance would take you up to 600ps, 550ps gets you up at around 85% . Some cars have these kinds of tolerances but the majority do not. Of course, it's torque that kills rods, keep the torque capped at low rpm to avoid high peak torque values and you naturally protect the engine a little more but tuners soon find the weak spots.

I'm sure there have been a series of failures of the 2.0T EA888 engine below 550ps, perhaps their owners drove them hard and the owners that are at 550hp 'safely' just now with no issues are not driving them hard.

Rogier/RedS3 Reilly.... Would you be confident taking your car to the Nurburgring and doing a few laps flat out followed by a top speed run on the Autobahns 180+mph on the way home? Followed by a drag strip event a week later? If the answer is 100% yes, then fair enough, you have full confidence, if the answer is, well 80% yes, 20% niggle in the back of my mind that something would let go, then that niggle is always going to be there when pushing the car on.

The post isn't a dig, just putting some perspective on mileage claims regarding ''safety margins''. You may both be fine at 550 tootling back and forward to work on your daily commute, but another owner at 475 may blow theirs at the Nurburgring driving it hard.

Good to see the engines being pushed though and owners taking those leaps:cheerful:
 
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[QUOTE="Leo-RS, [/QUOTE]

If MRC are prepared to put them out there at 500+ and many German tuners, I feel around 500 is safe to point. I believe as does the industry that Germany is the toughest market as is for testing turbos or engines. Really these German guys in my experience drive very hard and again I'm not hearing on fails or turbo damage from fails.

I believe we have the most MQB customers at 500+ in the world as we have been leading the market and pushing the limits for the platform and set most records. We have hundreds and Hundreds of MQB customers! I'm not hearing of issues that raise alarms.

Tuner is key (custom tune)
 
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My motto is: If it fails, fix it. Cars are ment to be driven hard..
 
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Mileage on modified cars doesn't really tell you anything to be fair. You may potentially have that power under the throttle pedal and never utilise it so claims of 10/20/30k miles can be misleading.

The cars really need to be abused at those levels to verify longevity. Numerous track days, Autobahn/Runway/Vmax testing at high speed, regular 1/4m drag racing racking up hundreds of launches etc.

You could run 650hp through the engine once, claim the engine is good for 650 and then never spool up the turbo again.

You need a higher sample rate at these power levels and logged track event/high load activities on the engines to verify where the engine sits safely.

300ps designed engine, 100% tolerance would take you up to 600ps, 550ps gets you up at around 85% . Some cars have these kinds of tolerances but the majority do not. Of course, it's torque that kills rods, keep the torque capped at low rpm to avoid high peak torque values and you naturally protect the engine a little more but tuners soon find the weak spots.

I'm sure there have been a series of failures of the 2.0T EA888 engine below 550ps, perhaps their owners drove them hard and the owners that are at 550hp 'safely' just now with no issues are not driving them hard.

Rogier/RedS3 Reilly.... Would you be confident taking your car to the Nurburgring and doing a few laps flat out followed by a top speed run on the Autobahns 180+mph on the way home? Followed by a drag strip event a week later? If the answer is 100% yes, then fair enough, you have full confidence, if the answer is, well 80% yes, 20% niggle in the back of my mind that something would let go, then that niggle is always going to be there when pushing the car on.

The post isn't a dig, just putting some perspective on mileage claims regarding ''safety margins''. You may both be fine at 550 tootling back and forward to work on your daily commute, but another owner at 475 may blow theirs at the Nurburgring driving it hard.

Good to see the engines being pushed though and owners taking those leaps:cheerful:

Hi Leo,

You are right. Only if the car is pushed frequently on maximal levels and survives you can state is realible. But how realible are any other (super) cars ? Most of us do not go near racetracks or dragstrips. Owners of Ferrari's Porsches etc. won't either. I am sure most of the cars would break at some point when "abused". But they still leave the factory with e.g 500+ hp and we are madly in love with them. I have never seen the Vmax of my car, but i am a quick daily driver. For me that is sufficient.

Sure, it gives me a better state of mind to know that it will hold up to what ever i do with the car, but there is never a assurance. Cars will fail.
 
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Mileage on modified cars doesn't really tell you anything to be fair. You may potentially have that power under the throttle pedal and never utilise it so claims of 10/20/30k miles can be misleading.

The cars really need to be abused at those levels to verify longevity. Numerous track days, Autobahn/Runway/Vmax testing at high speed, regular 1/4m drag racing racking up hundreds of launches etc.

You could run 650hp through the engine once, claim the engine is good for 650 and then never spool up the turbo again.

You need a higher sample rate at these power levels and logged track event/high load activities on the engines to verify where the engine sits safely.

300ps designed engine, 100% tolerance would take you up to 600ps, 550ps gets you up at around 85% . Some cars have these kinds of tolerances but the majority do not. Of course, it's torque that kills rods, keep the torque capped at low rpm to avoid high peak torque values and you naturally protect the engine a little more but tuners soon find the weak spots.

I'm sure there have been a series of failures of the 2.0T EA888 engine below 550ps, perhaps their owners drove them hard and the owners that are at 550hp 'safely' just now with no issues are not driving them hard.

Rogier/RedS3 Reilly.... Would you be confident taking your car to the Nurburgring and doing a few laps flat out followed by a top speed run on the Autobahns 180+mph on the way home? Followed by a drag strip event a week later? If the answer is 100% yes, then fair enough, you have full confidence, if the answer is, well 80% yes, 20% niggle in the back of my mind that something would let go, then that niggle is always going to be there when pushing the car on.

The post isn't a dig, just putting some perspective on mileage claims regarding ''safety margins''. You may both be fine at 550 tootling back and forward to work on your daily commute, but another owner at 475 may blow theirs at the Nurburgring driving it hard.

Good to see the engines being pushed though and owners taking those leaps:cheerful:
Not sure that any driver of higher powered vehicles redline it everywhere they go, I don't floor it every single time I drive it as that's not practical or legal, I do when the opportunity arrises open it right up and have a lot of fun with it and yes I do take it to drag strips and have v maxed it several times, I would expect by doing the ring/autobahn & drag back to back, the temperatures involved would be huge and there would be a component that would fail somewhere or other.
As with all tuned cars the owner needs to have some mechanical sympathy towards it
 
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Maybe most powerful 2017 S3 8V to date anywhere..


Project Customs Limited - Leeds S3 8V 2017 TTE52R

Spec :
stock engine
Autotech Upgrade HPFP
VWR Intake
Silicone intake hose
CM Tuning Exhaust
MRC Tuning software

99Ron 2.1bar custom tune : 522PS 673Nm

Perfect fast spooling turbo response on this set-up



#TTEORGOHOME #TTEPOWER #MRC #TTE525R








 
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Congratulations to Berat Aliu in his S3 8V using the TTE525R hybrid Turbocharger Installed by Ecotune and utilising there custom Software.

Managing a best 1/4 mile time of 10.859 sec @128.2 MPH at Crail Raceway in Scotland today.

Maybe the fastest S3 8V 1/4 mile time posted in GB
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to date and the first 10 sec run from a S3 8V MQB. Could even be fastest S3 8V 1/4 in Europe?

#TTEPOWER #TTE525R #S38V #10SEC #MQB #ECOTUNE #98RON#ROADTYRES #WAGNER



 
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Testing TTE6XXR on a S3 8V (Stock engine) last weekend at Santapod

Car wasn't actually specifically tuned for the turbo but was running a TTE525R tune

 
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Dave Hendson in his S3 8V TTE525R MRC 600PS
Saloon 6 speed manual

 
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Congratulations to Berat Aliu in his S3 8V using the TTE525R hybrid Turbocharger Installed by Ecotune and utilising there custom Software.

Managing a best 1/4 mile time of 10.859 sec @128.2 MPH at Crail Raceway in Scotland today.

Maybe the fastest S3 8V 1/4 mile time posted in GB
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to date and the first 10 sec run from a S3 8V MQB. Could even be fastest S3 8V 1/4 in Europe?

#TTEPOWER #TTE525R #S38V #10SEC #MQB #ECOTUNE #98RON#ROADTYRES #WAGNER



Ha seen this guy about Edinburgh and he hooned it off the lights. Did sounds very good!
 
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What’s the general consensus on the APR and Revo Stage 1 & TCU tunes now?
Planning getting it done this month as the cars out of warranty but don’t know which way to go.
 
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What’s the general consensus on the APR and Revo Stage 1 & TCU tunes now?
Planning getting it done this month as the cars out of warranty but don’t know which way to go.

It's anyone's choice really mate. I went for Revo as my son had Revo software on his MK2 Focus RS and was great.

I have nothing against APR and I think they will both be very similar.

I'm running Revo stage 2 and 400bhp (plenty of mods) and the cars is great.
 
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