elec window wont go down

[Seaneyb]

hi guys,

my car has recently decided to throw a few fits. I went to put the window down yesterday on the drivers side and noticed it didn't work, the other three (pass front, rear passenger, rear driver) worked on the switch. I just randomly thought the switch was bad. I found a replacement on amazon and got it primed to me today.

Today i replaced the window switch on the drivers side with the new one i got. Sadly the fault is still there. I checked the fusebox (assuming its fuse 22 for interior cabin) and it was fine. I then went round all the other switches to check to see if they were working independently to see if they worked on their own and they also do not work. I can however control them directly from the drivers side, minus the drivers window itself! I've just done a reading with VCDS and it has returned the following fault codes.

Sunday,14,April,2019,19:48:35:00007
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
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VIN: WAUZZZ8E77A150562 License Plate: RV57FLZ
Mileage: 279580km-173722mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
67 69 75 76 77
VIN: WAUZZZ8E77A150562 Mileage: 279580km-173722miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BLB.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 JD HW: 028 101 265 4
Component: R4 2,0L EDC 000SG 9643
Revision: --H02--- Serial number:
Coding: 0000072
Shop #: WSC 17383 002 1048576
VCID: 6ED378B97997023A37-803A

2 Faults Found:
005512 - Engine Mount Solenoid Valves (N144/N145)
P1588 - 000 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 279564 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.24 V
Bin. Bits: 00000100
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Torque: 351.4 Nm

001648 - Glow Plug Module 1; Glow Plug Circuit
P0670 - 000 - Electrical Malfunction
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 279564 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 882 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.86 V
Bin. Bits: 00000100
Temperature: 26.1°C
Bin. Bits: 10110000

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 H HW: 8E0 614 517 BF
Component: ESP8 FRONT H06 0140
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0004401
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2C57B2B18F0B302A59-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 BL
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 3233
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 6CD772B11C8BF02A19-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 N
Component: int. Lastmodul ECE 0907
Coding: 11001
Shop #: WSC 65536
VCID: 3D718FF53771A9A2FE-4B32

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 G HW: 8E0 959 655 G
Component: Airbag 9.41 H12 3730
Revision: 91H12373 Serial number: 0036M0G4TGHR
Coding: 0031612
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 3B7581ED7A65A792C0-806E

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB4043A0A24G

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB404450D2FR

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352ARB401B314A0C

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362ARB401BB4024G

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB401E04369K

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB401E0436AM

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0701
Coding: 04012
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 4189F3054B89CD429A-4B18

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 983 A HW: 8E0 920 983 A
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H14 0200
Revision: 0200 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0006418
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: 2D51BFB5B71139224E-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 983 A HW: 8E0 920 983 A
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H14 0200
Revision: 0200 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0006418
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: 2D51BFB5B71139224E-515A

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 N HW: 8E0 035 192 N
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H72 0500
Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZBZ7F1091973
Coding: 0309717
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 2F6DA5BDBD1D4B327C-51B2

No fault code found.

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 8E0-951-177.lbl
Part No: 8E0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0804
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 6BD571AD1985F71210-515A

1 Fault Found:
01463 - Alarm triggered by Sensor for anti-theft alarm System
43-00 - Closed

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No: 8E0 959 433 CH
Component: Komfortgerát T3B 4135
Coding: 07151
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 79F95BE563D9558292-4B18

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E2959802B
Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0003

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E2959801F
Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0606

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801E
Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0606

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802E
Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0606

5 Faults Found:
01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring
35-00 - -
01801 - Door Warning Lamp; Drivers Side (W30)
57-10 - Electric Circuit Failure - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
80-00 - Single-Wire Operation
01811 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Drivers Side (J386)
37-00 - Faulty
01705 - Selection Switch for Mirror-Adjust (E48)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 N HW: 8E0 035 192 N
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H72 0500
Revision: 01S Serial number: AUZBZ7F1091973
Coding: 0309717
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 2F6DA5BDBD1D4B327C-51B2

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 8E0-919-283-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 919 283 D HW: 8E0 919 283 D
Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H06 0010
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 00067802030631
Coding: 0000114
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 3169A3C5AB295DC26A-5178

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 H HW: 8P0 862 335 H
Component: FSE_255x BT H26 0290
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005050820
Coding: 0011802
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 3B7581ED7965A792C0-513C

No fault code found.

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PS if you know what the engine/glow issue is too i would be chuffed.

Any thoughts?

 

[OliNix]

Im afraid I can’t help, but have a similar problem whereby all my other windows work, from independent switches and from drivers multi switch pack.

My drivers window intermittently works/doesn’t work, along with my power mirror controls and the central locking on the drivers door (all in sync with each other). I don’t have any fault codes, but a very similar problem!

Following in the hope we can both find the answer! I’m currently at the it must be something wrong with the control module. I checked all the harnesses and connections, fuses today and all seemed fine.

 

[Seaneyb]

All my central locking and mirrors work fine. Seems to be a strange electrical issue.

 

[Jack Kelly]

Is there any way it could be the window regulator? Mine went but it did still move on the switch, it just had a badly frayed wire which ruined it.

It's only around 20 quid and a couple of hours work.

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[Seaneyb]

I don’t think it is, as you’d hear the motor. I also can’t pop the windows down from the other independent switches on each door.

 

[norad97]

Hi, I would take the door card off and check the loom for breaks were it comes out of the door in the rubber cover into the car.
Its well known that these wires can bend and chaff, or try moving the wiring in the rubber cover while operating the switch.
With the door card off, and remove the door module and then you can pull up the window, and put the module back just to secure.

 

[Seaneyb]

4 wires had snapped and 2 are damaged on the drivers side loom. Looms out the car now and hopefully should be an easy fix tomorrow!

 

[norad97]

Glad to hear you found it, they can be a problem with age. The wire does not stand up very well.
I repaired my boot wiring, but cut it out and replaced with silicone wire that is more flexable, if my door loom breaks I would do the same.
You only need to replace the part where it get lots of flexing.
BTW what year is your car?

 

[Seaneyb]

All fixed, wires were pretty corroded so had to strip them back even further. Reenforced a few cracked but not broken wires with 2 layers of heat shrink. All other wires were stripped back and rewired and soldered together with 2 layers of shrink wrap.

If anyone has the same issue, it was the Orange/Green, Red/Grey, Red/Yellow wires that broke.

Thread can be closed now

 

[OliNix]

Any pics for guidance?

 

[Seaneyb]

Any pics for guidance?

None sorry mate.

Steps to follow are as follows;

1. Remove door card
2. Remove speaker
3. Remove Electric Window Modue
4. Unclip the inner door wiring plastic lugs (green)
5. Unclip wing mirror door clips (black, they run along the speaker
6. Optional task - Remove window frame (made life easier to unplug the actuator from the door, due to unusual mounting clip. Not required if you have small hands and arms)
7. Unplug the wiring harness from door
8. Unplug the electrical connector from the chassis side ( clip to remove is on the side facing the hinges in the middle).
9. Feed the harness out of the drivers door, pulling from the chassis side carefully.
10. remove some of the automotive tape from the silicone shield and look at the damaged wiring and repair by soldering and heat shrinking.

All in all, should take about 2.5h max.