Goosey built S4

g00se

Registered User
Hi

When are you planning on hitting the ring? Cos I would love to join the party

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Hells yeah - the more the merrier!!

We are going first weekend in Sept.. plan is to drive there on Fri 2nd, watch the RCN racing on Sat 3rd, tourist laps all day Sun 4th, and drive home Mon 5th.

All like-minded folks going.. should be plenty of steaks and beers to wash them down with.

So far our convoy has: S4 Avant, E92 M3, AMG Merc, TT, V8 R8, V0 Plus R8, Ferrari F430... and a few pending (Mk5 gti / Clio etc). Plus a few extra passengers who are just along for the ride/craic :)

Cant wait.. its been 4 yrs since my last trip. CARWOW style walkie-talkies on standby :)

Cheers
goose
 

S4dadwagon

New Member
Thanks chap - its still a work in progress, but funds dictate the speed of mods!!

When i picked my S4 up Sept last year the stock downpipes were rattling, so the dealer agreed to pay for new ones, and was super happy when i told him that Scorpion were cheaper than OEM Audi ones.. so that was mod one done, and cost me nothing :) Sound wise, they are almost exactly the same as stock.

As for the cats.. they are a constant worry for any B8/8.5 owner, and knowing the way i drive and my mod plans, i investigated all options.... i went for CM Tuning removing, gutting, refitting the stock cats, then coding and map tweaking.. so as to have no check engine lights.

I did this as if id didn't like the noise, i could then potentially add back in some hi-flo cats into the Scorpion downpipes to quieten it back down again...

As it stands, it sounds a touch louder on cold start.. then quiets down to normal, and putting round town its very tame.

Wide open throttle tho, there is rasp.. and i mean like an old E46 M3 with stock exhaust rasp. Very Jekyll and Hyde. I may in future get the rest of the Scorpion system to see if it deepens the tone. But TBH, its very livable.. I'm 47 and I've done loud exhausts for decades.. this is the best of both worlds :)

cheers
goose
I ended up having the Scorpion resonated downpipes installed last week - what a difference it's made but can't tell if it's quieter than OEM because i'd been living with the rattle!
The CATs are on the agenda at some point, i'd probably go the adding in the hi-flo cats to stock housing route - but like you say, funding dictates modding ... house and kids dictate the funding!

The e46 M3 rasp was addictive ... miss that a little

btw - are you still selling the intake pipe?

Cheers
 

ninjag

Registered User
Meyle HD control arm kit ordered from FCP Euro... now to order some lowering springs, and get the lot fitted.

Am trying to get 'Ring ready :yahoo:

V excited goose

Is it the full top and bottom kit? I got that and it's been very good to me so far. Mind to double check they send the correct ball joint (M14 for you?) and their guide specs torque for the M12 at 110Nm, but I think the M14 torque is listed at the end, 145Nm I think but would need to check.
 

g00se

Registered User
Is it the full top and bottom kit? I got that and it's been very good to me so far. Mind to double check they send the correct ball joint (M14 for you?) and their guide specs torque for the M12 at 110Nm, but I think the M14 torque is listed at the end, 145Nm I think but would need to check.
Yep - full M14 kit.. when the guys did my cats a few weeks back they spotted that some of the upper control arm bushes looked pretty worn, so i figured id do the lot as i always thought the steering input felt a tad vague.

I guess with 62k on an 8 yr old car its kinda to be expected.. but still not what you want to see :/

Still umm'ing and err'ing about which lowered springs to get.. i dont want to go low low, just a smidge lower than stock. Am thinking either ST springs or Eibachs.. but its very hard to get a true estimation of how much the car will drop as all sites say that different cars/models have differing start heights, so each will see different results?!?

cheers
goose
 

g00se

Registered User
I ended up having the Scorpion resonated downpipes installed last week - what a difference it's made but can't tell if it's quieter than OEM because i'd been living with the rattle!
The CATs are on the agenda at some point, i'd probably go the adding in the hi-flo cats to stock housing route - but like you say, funding dictates modding ... house and kids dictate the funding!

The e46 M3 rasp was addictive ... miss that a little

btw - are you still selling the intake pipe?

Cheers
Be mindful of replacing the stock cats with hi-flo cats in the stock position, as they will suffer the same issue!! That's why most have them removed and added into the system further down the pipes..

Intake pipe and filter still for sale.. price dropped to £80 for the pair collected, or can ship for a small fee.

Cheers,
goose
 

ninjag

Registered User
Yep - full M14 kit.. when the guys did my cats a few weeks back they spotted that some of the upper control arm bushes looked pretty worn, so i figured id do the lot as i always thought the steering input felt a tad vague.

I guess with 62k on an 8 yr old car its kinda to be expected.. but still not what you want to see :/

Still umm'ing and err'ing about which lowered springs to get.. i dont want to go low low, just a smidge lower than stock. Am thinking either ST springs or Eibachs.. but its very hard to get a true estimation of how much the car will drop as all sites say that different cars/models have differing start heights, so each will see different results?!?

cheers
goose

Nice one. It was my lower arm which was starting to knock and also at around 60k miles and likewise I figured that may as well do the whole lot.
 

g00se

Registered User
Nice one. It was my lower arm which was starting to knock and also at around 60k miles and likewise I figured that may as well do the whole lot.
How was the steering feel after fitment?

I had a B7 S4 in the past so I'm fully aware of the driving characteristics of a nose-heavy Quattro.. but I've always felt my B8.5 wagon seemed to wander on motorways, and understeer badly when pushing on. I have high-hopes for the new arms/bushes, and springs - fingers crossed!!!!

goose
 

ninjag

Registered User
How was the steering feel after fitment?

I had a B7 S4 in the past so I'm fully aware of the driving characteristics of a nose-heavy Quattro.. but I've always felt my B8.5 wagon seemed to wander on motorways, and understeer badly when pushing on. I have high-hopes for the new arms/bushes, and springs - fingers crossed!!!!

goose

Unfortunately, I was fairly new to the car so had little experience to go on. I do remember it feeling a little vague when I got it and it didn't help coming from the XF which was RWD and had very direct steering. I got the car in June last year and fitted the Meyle HD kit in October followed with a full 4 wheel alignment and it definitely felt sharper and a little tighter afterwards. There's a particular corner I know well and it can actually oversteer now and then when going to straighten up I need to be more fluid and progressive because trying to snap it out quickly causes the car to step in an correct.

I remember reading some threads on the wandering thing and some people believed the steering rack causes this. Of course the placebo effect sneaked in and I suddenly started feeling like my car was doing it! lol I think this was before getting the arms done though because I've not noticed it for a long time.

Could both of the above also have been down to alignment?

My rear is feeling a touch harsh now so I think my rear lower arms will need replaced soon and thankfully looks like a far easier job. I'll be looking for Meyle if available because the front kit felt very good quality when installing.
 

g00se

Registered User
So whilst I impatiently await my Meyle HD control arms to be released from customs.. i bought and fitted a front upper strut brace from Adam @ Strutco :)

DONE:
Private plates - originally went on with Vorspung Durch Technik plate holders - but have since ditched them for short plates
ITG cone air filter - For sale
Stock air box mod
ECS Tuning air intake pipe - For sale
Scorpion resonated downpipes
Ghost immobiliser
10mm rear spacers
HEL braided brake lines all round
De-badged
5mm front spacers
Full Trups LED kit
Honeycomb fog light grilles
Porsche Macan 4-pot Brembos / VBT J-hook disks / EBC Yellowstuff pads
MRC Tuning Stage 2 ECU & Stage 1 TCU maps
ECS Tuning brake cooling ducts
RS4 22.5mm rear anti roll bar
Darkside gearbox mount insert
RS style honeycomb front grille
Black Audi rings (front and rear)
Gutted stock cats
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's
Strutco front upper strut brace

Strutco.jpg


TO DO:
Upgrade suspension (Meyle HD control arms/bushes & Eibach Pro springs - on order)
MercRacing heat exchanger

goose
 

g00se

Registered User
Every car guy loves a delivery right???

Meyle.jpg


Now where are those Eibachs, so I can get this lot all bolted on and tested at Donnington park?!?

goose
 

g00se

Registered User
Sooo, slight issue! FCP sold me the Meyle HD lower arm ONLY kit, rather than the upper and lower arm kit!!

And it turns out my lower arms weren't that bad, but the upper arm bushes are the ones that are perished - DOH!

Meh.. guess they would have needed doing at some point. Unit82 got everything bolted on for me, inc the Eibach Pro's. so the old girl sits much flatter now :racer:

DONE:
Private plates - originally went on with Vorspung Durch Technik plate holders - but have since ditched them for short plates
ITG cone air filter - For sale
Stock air box mod
ECS Tuning air intake pipe - For sale
Scorpion resonated downpipes
Ghost immobiliser
10mm rear spacers
HEL braided brake lines all round
De-badged
5mm front spacers
Full Trups LED kit
Honeycomb fog light grilles
Porsche Macan 4-pot Brembos / VBT J-hook disks / EBC Yellowstuff pads
MRC Tuning Stage 2 ECU & Stage 1 TCU maps
ECS Tuning brake cooling ducts
RS4 22.5mm rear anti roll bar
Darkside gearbox mount insert
RS style honeycomb front grille
Black Audi rings (front and rear)
Gutted stock cats
Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's
Strutco front upper strut brace
Meyle HD lower control arms
Eibach Pro springs


TO DO:
Meyle HD upper control arms
MercRacing heat exchanger

goose
 

g00se

Registered User
Cheeky pic from last weeks eve session at Donnington Park, the new power and suspension upgrades worked a treat... the Macan Brembos/EBC Yellows, as you can see from the pic got pretty dusty when pushing-on, but still got the job done.

Time will tell if I upgrade the "mild" BBK for a truly big, BBK!! The Macan 4-pots are far better than stock single-pots, and for 98% of the time they are ace.. but for 2% track use on a nearly 500 brake, 1.7 tonne wagon, i may need better. hhmmm

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Also, now on order is a bigger 034 heat exchanger.. as in this heat, the power was noticeably down after just a few laps.

goose
 

g00se

Registered User
I love my B9 caliper/A6 disk setup - I have been tentatively looking at some ceramic options...
Yikes that sounds pricey!?!

I think ill need to sleep on this idea.. modding my mods isnt great on my bank balance LOL... i really need to heed my own advice #doitoncedoitright

I'd prob go for 390mm 6 pot AP kit or the OEM RS5 8 pots.... both are circa £2400-2800 tho

All-in the Macan kit cost me circa £1200, as i needed new disks, pads, lines etc too. Not sure what id get selling them on...? They've only done around 2k miles!!

goose
 

Simon

Registered User
I'd stay away from the 8 pots, all the research I did suggests they are just expensive and ultimately not great VFM.

I think I could go up 5-10mm on disc diameter and if I am having some ceramics custom cut that wouldn't be an issue. TBH the biggest problem is finding a suitable bell rather than having to have one made.

At the moment it is all research as the use the car gets put to currently doesn't warrant the £7-10k I think it would cost to do
 

Simon

Registered User
It might be worth looking at ceramic discs for the Macan calipers, big upgrade in stopping ability for just the investment of the discs, worth a chat with these people

 
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