Life after RS3

MBK

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Hello again all, it's been about 8 months since I sold the RS3 so I thought I'd do a little write up on life after the RS3. I'm not going to bang on about the abilities or attributes of other cars here, that would probably just cause a negative response on a single brand site, but I might mention a couple in general comparison.

In hindsight...

You might already know how much I loved the RS3 during my time as an owner and I'm glad to say I can stand by all I said then. As an all round seriously fast road car I've still experienced nothing to better it. Grip, traction, power and cross country pace are superb and all in a practical car with reasonable running costs. Well, reasonable running costs if you don't take it to the track as I did a few times. The RS3 is what it is and has limits as a track machine, ultimately it's just too heavy but it's just not possible to have it all. On a wet track day it remains a devastating machine, not many cars can put full power down out of a hairpin on a soaking wet track, the RS3 can. Wet launch control 0-60 / 0-100 was only 0.2s slower on the wettest days, that takes some explaining, the laws of physics seem to have been defied.

I overlooked...

When you are having fun and enjoying a car it's easy to overlook the minor faults. The only one I now see more clearly with the RS3 was it's appetite for front tyres. This was cured to some extent with MPSS replacing the standard Contis but that I would say is the main issue I didn't see as an owner. Now with other similar cars I see just how much better they look after their tyres. It's a minor point in ownership of a £40K+ car and well balanced by the overall excellent RS3 fuel economy.

Remapping remains a question mark too. I'm not sure it was really worth the money or the fairly minor performance gains. As a track toy remapping might make sense but on road I think the number of moments you gain from it are limited. Other cars offer far more bang for the same remap buck but I will leave that discussion there.

Have other cars caught up?

In some ways yes, in others no. The A45 AMG is an extremely similar car, you'd feel right at home in one within a mile. The A45 doesn't feel as initially punchy from launch, my PerformanceBox figures say it is almost identical. MPG on the same journeys is almost exactly the same as the RS3 too. The A45 sounds slightly unhinged with the sports exhaust but it doesn't have the character of the 5 pot. The brakes on the A45 are just stunning, lap after lap with no fade or warping, right up there with the after market sets available for the RS3. The RS3 balance is all Audi, the A45 is surprisingly much more Evo like.

Strangely though the closest rivals come from the newer cousins. The latest Golf R and Leon Cupra are astonishingly capable machines. I've been lucky enough to pilot both on track and they go incredibly well. Both run my then standard RS3 close according to my best lap times at least. The Cupra is alive and turns in superbly, quite some car for FWD. Adaptive suspension gives both cars a range of personality. The other obvious rival in the M135i still leaves me cold, I've driven another and it's the same good car to 7/10s performance and just gets ragged after that. Oversteer might look cool on the track but that is about it.

Would I buy the next RS3?

Yes, without hesitation for the car, if I wanted one car to meet the fast road and very occasional track blast. Yet at the same time no because others have created a much better customer service experience which Audi, in our experience now lag way behind.

So 8 months later my verdict remains that the RS3 is a truly great all rounder road car with devastating wet weather pace. The biggest let down is nothing to do with the car and rests at the door of the fleet diesel obsessed dealer network.
 

Mr_Freeze

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Hi Mark, good to see your still around.
You didn't mention what your driving round in now.
Did the GTR ever make it?
 

MBK

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Hi Neil,

thanks, sure did once the new garage door was fitted, which I'm glad I did because it's a big beast, I'm already on my second one because the market has been heading upwards which is a rarity for cars. That said I'm not driving around in it everyday, I'm using my generic VAG DSG small fwd hatchback that no one takes any notice / can be parked anywhere of for all the boring stuff and it is utterly brilliant at it. Being let out in traffic is a real bonus too.

I'll happily answer any questions on performance, running costs etc if people are interested but I'm equally aware it's an Audi site.

Cheers,

Mark
 

Mr_Freeze

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I'm sure nobody on here is going to complain about hearing anything to do with a GTR.
Firstly let's see some pics, then let's hear about your exploits so far.
If you want to keep it loosely Audi, then run a comparison between it and the 3
 

MBK

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I'm not so sure. No details as I now realise the rarity of these cars and how much they can be tracked via the net. I sold the first car easily and I'd like this one to go the same way.

I'm happy to answer GTR vs RS3 though there isn't really much to say. In my hands on my best 2ish mile lap the GTR is 5 seconds a lap faster than the RS3 (Ooops yes, the GTR has been on track, frankly the only way to enjoy it properly). Where the tuned RS3 ran 4.0s 0-60 the GTR will consistently run sub 3s, substantially 3s on the right day. I found that sightly scared laughing accompanied the RS3 launch, the GTR launch seems to illicit more swearing.

It's fast, it's furious, it (running) costs a lot and like the shampoo - it's worth it.
 

ACWKGYTO

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You are so right about the complacent Audi experience...they need to up their game big time or I will be joining you !
 

45bvtc

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I do NOT agree: Stafford Audi for me has been 100% (S3, A2 1.6fsi, TT3.2, TT2.0, RS3, A2 tdi)

Audi UK both Leeds and Milton Keynes have been 100%, most communicative; thank you.

And; I have had a number of Audi owners through my garage with an attitude that would NOT get them satisfaction form Audi on any day of the week, and they know it!

It's all about people and a please and a thank you lifestyle. Purchasing a car from any dealership does not get you FREE entrance to the executive lavatory...

Yer pays yer money and takes yer choice! Want a Mits'a, Suba' , Jag', GT 'X' 'Y' 'Z' or whatever then go buy one...

All do much the same thing; get you from 'A' to 'B' , ish...

I'm loving life with a recently purchased 10-year old Audi A2 90bhp diesel and driving the ba**s of it: £30 tax, 50+ mpg, and zero rust; it's just magic...

LESS can sometimes be so much more... :racer:

MASHING and RS5 at the weekend (or an RS5/6/7 and/or S8 weeks before) was interesting but I don't want one...

Stafford Audi for me are 100%
 
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woollyjoe

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Wow, where to start with the last post...

I get you are a satisfied Audi customer, and maybe related, or indeed you may be dating judging by how good a match you two are. (that is a joke, so no need to respond, in fact this whole post is meant to be in dry humour), but there are however many people that are not satisfied and this important in considering an RS3 (that's the serious message bit).

Whilst it may serve you to assume every person who complains about Audi service wants to pee in that holy lavatory thingy that requires you to get to level 64 on candy crush (another joke - never actually played candy crush). Most just want basic things done right, like being sold the correct car and not having to escalate to Trading Standards with no help from Audi. Or procrastination on warranty issues again with no support from Audi (serious bit - ok - you get the idea).

I don't think anyone is saying good customer service doesn't exist, but it is actually Audi I was talking about and I believe the others too. Some franchises selling Audi are terrible IMHO based upon experiences. Audi do not own any of their retail stores or even have a level of involvement close to many others. To offer an example, Mercedes Benz own many of their own stores and even have specialist AMG centres and the standard shows. Other lower priced car manufacturers have far greater involvement too, with Tesla only selling their own cars and look how good that service is.

Which is why it came up in the first place about owning an RS3...I am pretty sure I have seen you post the same comment about your A2 on another A3 post, unless you two are actually married and have found true love. The comment about life with Audi for a car like an RS3 is an important consideration for ownership, and on topic. Especially given the problems with the original Golf R engine (same as Audi S3 BTW).

So please can we keep this about ownership of an RS3 for which this review has helped me greatly. Otherwise I may end up buying a bicycle as less is more. Feel free to set up a "I love my A2 and Stafford Audi and despise Audi customers that come through my garage" post.
 

woollyjoe

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On a serious note - would you (the OP) give up your GT-R if you were not penalised financially (with cost of trading etc) for the new RS3 assuming it's going to be as good as it should be?
 

DAYTONA 500

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45bvtc

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Wow, where to start with the last post...

I get you are a satisfied Audi customer, and maybe related, or indeed you may be dating judging by how good a match you two are. (that is a joke, so no need to respond, in fact this whole post is meant to be in dry humour), but there are however many people that are not satisfied and this important in considering an RS3 (that's the serious message bit).

But I will reply, no worries:

1) Yes I'm happy with my 10-years ownership of Audi cars (S3, A2fsi, TT3.2, RS3, TT2.0, A2Tdi) and I'm very hands-on and very untrusting of garages, even Audi ones.

2) No, I'm not related to any Audi/VW group employee that I'm aware of

3) No, I'm not having any sort of relations with any Audi employee....

But I have been responsible for the manufacture of motor vehicles and have had to respond to customer complaints so you could say I've experienced both sides of any Audi (and others) dealerships.

Currently with an RS3, TT roadster, and an A2 and love 'em all for different reasons.

PS: I owned a 1971 Lotus Elan for 37-years, drove it to the South of France 4-times; and in a 70's Lotus, any 70's Lotus, that was either very stupid of very, very brave...

I like this Forum too, enjoy

PS: owned my RS3 now for 3.1/2 years and it's staying with me for another 6.1/2 years - a planned 10-year cycle - by which time I'll be 77-years of age and will be looking toward a new Audi of sorts; you can be sure it'll be a quick one...
 

woollyjoe

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Thanks for the added RS3 insight. It has been very helpful, although I am disappointed you did not share...your favourite colour; if you watch Corrie or Eastenders, or indeed Home & Away; you prefer Y fronts or boxer shorts; your shoe size; and if you are a morning or evening person.

Forums are great for making chat, but there are sections for ramblings, and sections for specific things, like "life after an RS3". Maybe the screen cut off after "life"?
 

45bvtc

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Thanks for the added RS3 insight. It has been very helpful, although I am disappointed you did not share...your favourite colour; if you watch Corrie or Eastenders, or indeed Home & Away; you prefer Y fronts or boxer shorts; your shoe size; and if you are a morning or evening person.

Forums are great for making chat, but there are sections for ramblings, and sections for specific things, like "life after an RS3". Maybe the screen cut off after "life"?


RED; NO way; NO way, NO way; Neither; 8 in a Camper shoe: and the last two are like "what!" :search:Happy with my wheels woolyJoe; all of 'em; and will think on if and when something else comes along... :superman:
 

woollyjoe

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Anyone had an RS3 then upgraded to RS4 or RS6? I'm considering a side swap from A6 BiTDI with all the extras to an RS3 and worried about "downgrading" road presence and cabin quality. Nice GIF's BTW
 
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