My A6 3.0TDi Avant bit of a rebuild and repair thread.

B5NUT

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VCDS Map User
2008 was pre-facelift so would need a replacement regulator. Remember the battery management moved from it's own module to being on the gateway, and that uses a different signal.
 

Screw90

Registered User
That’s correct and v6 engines needs entire generator swap. For 2.0 R4 just regulator will do. This is due to different construction of the alternators.


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B5NUT

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VCDS Map User
I just changed the regulator on my V6 TDi engine, there were two possible alternators for the V6, one was Bosch and the other was Valeo and I was just able to replace the regulator on my Valeo unit. It could be the Bosch required a full replacement.
 

manniakk

Registered User
this means that i`ll have to get someone to change the alternator and have the new BEM installed and wired at the same time. I`m driving for almost an year with the old BEM and facelift gateway, but im tired of the error codes in engine, can and radio...
 

Screw90

Registered User
I just changed the regulator on my V6 TDi engine, there were two possible alternators for the V6, one was Bosch and the other was Valeo and I was just able to replace the regulator on my Valeo unit. It could be the Bosch required a full replacement.

Yeah you will need get rid of BEM on the back, run cable From pin2 of your gateway to the battery with new “minus” clamp to pin1. Elsawin will tell you the details but surely you need a single wire from pin2 GW to your boot and take it from there. No wiring change on generator itself. Just a swap.
Lee is right - I forgot about Valeo thing :)




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manniakk

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I did that when i was installing the camera video feed to the head unit, also i have created an adapter harness to plug into the 14 pin old plug of the prefacelift BEM. Just to point that you can tap into the wire on the lower part of A-pillar.

I have all set up and waiting, except the alternator. I went to the dealership but they could not tell me if i have bosch or valeo unit. It has to be checked under the car...
 
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mik15

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Hi B5Nut, perhaps you could help me out as i am bit out of ideas...i have '09 C6 with a 3G High and have done the retrofit to 3Gp. The unit comes from a Q5 but it was previously installed in an C6.

My problem is that most of the features are greyed out and so far i've come to the conclusion that i would need to flash my CAN to 0035 SW version, is that correct? My CAN currently runs on 0024SW version.

Also, i've got AAS and the menu only come up if i use Q7 in the green menu, if i use C6 it will not show on the MMI. Car and Tel buttons are reversed, is there anything that cand be done to sort these out as well?

Address 5F: Information Electr. Labels:

4E0-035-6XX-5F.CLB
Control Module Part Number: 8R2 035 666 L HW: 8R2 035 666 C
Component and/or Version: H-BN-EU H46 1036
Software Coding:

040100010102FBFD41009F5EFF5F2003E40000020100000002
Work Shop Code: WSC 06335 123 12345
VCID: 4280A859DD67465FCF-8016
3 Faults Found:

03276 - Please Check Software Version Management
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 243
Mileage: 254252 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.09.13
Time: 20:40:33

Freeze Frame:
Text: DU9356,Front,M,0,0,6



03278 - Functionality Limited due to Missing Messages
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 243
Mileage: 254252 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.09.13
Time: 20:40:41

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00001000

03623 - Invalid Security/Release Code
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 243
Mileage: 254252 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.09.13
Time: 20:40:32

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0004
Hex Value: 0x0009
Count: 7
 

B5NUT

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VCDS Map User
Unfortunately I cannot remember what the software version of my gateway was, it's been almost 5 years since I did the install. I do know the gateway I used was from a late model Q7 4L.

You need the 5F module in Q7 mode, A6 won't work as that it's for the later C7 model which uses a higher speed can system. The old Q7 4L had 3GP and it basically the same electronics & CAN-BUS as the C6.

Nothing you can do about the buttons being revered.

Here is a link to remove 2 of the fault codes https://upgrademyaudi.net/tutorials/03276-please-check-software-version-management-how-to-remove/

I had fault code 03278, don't think you will ever git rid of that fault.
 

mik15

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after trying different configurations today i have made some progress, as in it all works but the Time and Service Interval which are greyed out and now i am really hitting the wall as i can't seem to be able to find the right configuration within the Green menu for these last 2 features, any suggestions?

Definetely if i put 0 in the carmneuoperation the functions do not show up at all on the MMI, if i set it as i should they show up but greyed out. I can only think that the secret lies within the checking or un-checking it in the cardevicelist and carprotocolswitch, but then when you ad the carbusassignment the list of possible combinations is quite very large....
 

B5NUT

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VCDS Map User
For the clock to work do the following.

- cardevicelist -> select "clock"
- carprotocollswitch -> "clock" not select
 

mik15

Registered User
Thanks B5Nut for taking your time to answer, i got it all fully functional now with a combination of checking and uncheking in a few places in the green menu plus carbusassignment.

There is one more thing which i am missing, but i think this is due to the way the newer system work, on the old MMI 3g High i had the option to configure what the onboard computer shows on the IC. On this this MMI 3gp i don't find such an option, have looked in a mates C7 and it doesn't have it, not a big deal since i had everything checked anyways so i have the full info on the IC.
 

Screw90

Registered User
Are you referring to FIS/cluster options configurable via MMI?
If so - after 3GP retrofit that option is not existing so nothing to worry about.


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mik15

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yes, that is the one i am referring to. I thought so too that is no longer available, so how would you go about configure that if you wished so? As i said, i don't need to do that, just curious what would be the route...
 

mik15

Registered User
the problem with the incorrectly labeled buttons after the retrofit to 3GP can be sorted by getting an MMI controller unit form a Q7 facelift and swapping the buttons over to the C6 controller, they fit 100% our panel...so i am now looking for one :)
 

B5NUT

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VCDS Map User
Good luck with the search. when I was looking at them 4/5 years ago they made strong money and not worth it for a couple of buttons.
 

S. Lewis

Registered User
Great thread lots of information, Im about to do this in an A8 D3 with ACC using a Q7 5F - 4L2035746B, Im trying to find a gateway with 71 software, do anyone have or know where to get the update file?

thanks
 

nicholasgoodman1981

Registered User
Just for reference for people, if you fit 3g high with original prefacelift cluster and gateway 0071 time and measurements units will work, if you have fitted facelift cluster 0071 will not work with above so you need later gateway with BEM on gateway module
 

pploeser

Registered User
First off, thanks to those who have pioneered these retrofits and shared your experiences. I wouldn't have attempted this without it.

I'm in the middle of a 3G to 3G+ retrofit in a 2010 C6. The head unit came from an A8 and everything else is original from my vehicle. I've got it functional but with some issues. I've done everything I could find on the web, but the usual fixes are not working for me. I don't know if these are hardware compatibility issues or software/coding combinations I haven't managed to get just right yet.

My clocks (gauge cluster and MMI screen) do not match and I can't set the time or date on either one. MMI screen shows --:-- and the options to set the time are grayed out.

IMG_3049.jpg MMI_02-Menu-Time.png
MMI_13-car_cardevicelist_02.png MMI_24-car_carprotocolswitch_02.png

Basically all settings under the Car menus are grayed out. No amount of fiddling with green menu/VCDS has unlocked any of these. I realize some of them will not be compatible with my vehicle and that's fine. I should at least be able to adjust int/ext lighting, central locking, etc.

MMI_04-Car-Vehicle Settings_02.png MMI_06-Car-Driver Assist_02.png
MMI_08-Car-AC_02.png MMI_10_Car-Servicing_02.png

My steering wheel controls don't work (except paddles and heated wheel on/off button). I no longer get MMI info at the top of the driver information display on the cluster. I could live without this one, but knowing the capability is there I want to make it work. I can still scroll through the other options with the buttons on the wiper stalk.

IMG_3048.jpg

*edit: removed VCDS scan text
 

B5NUT

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VCDS Map User
Please sick up a full (unedited )VCDS scan it may give more information on the hardware installed on your car.
 

nicholasgoodman1981

Registered User
Also I got my mmi 3g high fully working with 26 pin gateway, had to deactivate 3g mmi installed option instrument cluster(17) adaptions, wonder if chap above needs to activate it and do opposite to what I done?
 

B5NUT

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VCDS Map User
As it's 3GP he is fitting he will need the newer gateway. 26Pin one won't work correctly with the 3GP system.
 

B5NUT

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VCDS Map User
Just been through this tread and the images are no longer loading. This must have happened during the outage last week. I'll see if the admin team can take a look, but I've already change all the links away from photobucket a couple of years back when they started to charge, so moved them to a new site and don't really want to spend the time changing them again.:wtf::frown::frown::frown:
 

pploeser

Registered User
Thanks guys! Latest auto scan is below if it allows it. Kept getting flagged for spam when I had it included in the first post.

Regarding the suggestion to de-activate 3G in the cluster, I considered this but don't think I've tried it yet. Will do this afternoon.

Code:
Wednesday,15,April,2020,15:57:27:58743
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.0.1 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: HOME

VIN: WAU4GBFBXAN045143   License Plate: A6
Mileage: 147350km-91559mi   Repair Order: 20200415-01



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Chassis Type: FB-AU56 (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 47 4C 4F 52 53 55
          56 5F 62 6C 6D 72

VIN: WAU4GBFBXAN045143   Mileage: 147350km-91559miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CCA)       Labels:. 06E-907-551-CAJ.clb
   Part No SW: 4F1 910 551 D    HW: 4F1 907 551
   Component: 3.0l V6 TFSI        0020 
   Revision: --H06---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 010D000A190F0120
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: A40444E3673E08A6C6-80F0

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F9 910 156 A    HW: 09L 927 156 C
   Component: AG6 09L 3,0TFSI USA 0020 
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number:        4560765
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 41184 001 1048576
   VCID: AA18AADB051ADED6FC-80FE

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AL    HW: 4F0 614 517 BA
   Component: ESP8 quattro    H03 0060 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0020921
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: EE9066CBF972F2F660-80BA

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B    HW: 4F0 905 852 E
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H05 0100 
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 10602501435678
   Coding: 0000135
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: A50259E76C04F1AED1-80F0

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 L
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H03 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 335 B
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 KSG   H03 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 B    HW: 4F1 820 043 AL
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0080 
   Revision: 00000074    Serial number: 00000000687979
   Coding: 0524582
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 9D7271074454396E89-80C8

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 M    HW: 4F0 907 279 A
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H22 0320 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0139123
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: B326B7BFD2D09F1E4F-80E6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AudiC6  H10 0040 
   Coding: 00056595
   Shop #: WSC 02335 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003 
   Coding: 00146221
   Shop #: WSC 02335 

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R41)       Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 110 A    HW: 4F0 035 110
   Component: CDC-MP3-Alp   H44 0140 
   Revision: AA001001   
   VCID: 956269277C64612E41-80C0

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 4F0-910-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 R    HW: 4F0 959 655 H
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0160 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003FA0013YUA
   Coding: 303142373034303030324A55304C34463053
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: B6208EAB09A28A3668-80E2

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 339 B    HW: 4F0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H03 0060
   Serial number: 5810000R0000003CTX
   Coding: 000000

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3574SRB40000A21D11A+

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 3584SRB40000A340622V

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
   Serial number: 3516HRB402J9KI9ISKMO

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
   Serial number: 3526HRB402T9LBCGU4C6

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3554NRB400005217DCC5

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 3564NRB4000052B063AY

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A    HW: 4F0 953 549 C
   Component: J0527               0530 
   Revision: 00H06000    Serial number: 90055093140014
   Coding: 0012342
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: A71E53EF1608E3BEE3-80F2

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           H02 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 920 983 H    HW: 4F0 920 983 H
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H08 0144 
   Revision: 00100000    Serial number: CN406ELC9     
   Coding: 8BDF12050B00D705020201
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: B12ABDB7E8CCAD0E3D-80E4

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 4F0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 M    HW: 4F0 907 468 F
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0035 
   Revision: LB100029    Serial number: 2900L09B068181
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: B93A859730BC654E85-80EC

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C    HW: 8K0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0125
   Serial number: 00000000002790803328

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 760 C    HW: 4F0 959 760 C
   Component: MEM-FS        H08 0062 
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001010033638
   Coding: 00581B00004011110000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: B12ABDB7E8CCAD0E3D-80E4

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4F0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
   Component: TSG FA        H11 0250 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000102348829
   Coding: 011F57204E40410001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: C6C0FE6B71421AB6F8-8092

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 K    HW: 4F0 907 289 K
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H27 0220 
   Revision: 02200027    Serial number: 01238052570000
   Coding: 8288925
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: B228B2BB2DCA961644-80E6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 223 P    HW: 4F0 035 223 P
   Component: BOSE G3 C6    H01 0100 
   Revision: AG001300    Serial number: 00000000049144
   Coding: 05010000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: A91A55D7C01CD5CEF5-80FC

No fault code found.

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Address 4C: Tire Pressure II        Labels: 4F0-910-274.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 274 A    HW: 4F0 907 274
   Component: J793  RKA+      H02 0100 
   Revision: 00000506    Serial number: 00005061084500
   Coding: 0623301
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: A20842FB7D2A0696B4-80F6

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 C
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H13 0100 
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000534329
   Coding: 0002014
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: DEF0360B09D26276D0-808A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4F0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
   Component: TSG BF        H11 0250 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000102365237
   Coding: 011F57204E40410001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: C5C2F9674C4411AEF1-8090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D    HW: 4F0 907 801 B
   Component: EPB  CEFC0090   H05 0090 
   Revision: --H05---   
   Coding: 0000222
   Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
   VCID: A10A4DF7782C1D8EAD-80F4

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 357     HW: 4L0 907 357
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0060 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000026
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: E99A15D7C09C15CE35-80BC

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 D
   Component: AFS-Modul links H01 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 D
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH01 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 082 A    HW: 4F0 035 082
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H45 0021 
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 335KZ097540373
   Coding: 020000010000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 9D7271078454396E89-80C8

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 035 746 M    HW: 4H0 035 746 C
   Component: H-BNT-NA      H50 1038 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 183BY0D7506544
   Coding: 00020001000321AE410003446F632003140001000100000002
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: B228B2BBEDCA961644-80E6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 BA
   Component: NAR 2013  0703

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604     HW: 4F0 919 604
   Component: DU7 High  H43 0306
   Serial number: 9356KH091130021     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 609 E    HW: 4F1 919 611 T
   Component: Bedienteil MM  H01 0060
   Serial number: 00000001455548     

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 E
   Component: CD-Database  4949

3 Faults Found:
01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 203
                    Mileage: 147352 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.16
                    Time: 04:44:59

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 10000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000

01524 - Antenna for Telephone
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 203
                    Mileage: 147352 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.16
                    Time: 04:45:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.10 V

03278 - Functionality Limited due to Missing Messages
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 203
                    Mileage: 147352 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.16
                    Time: 04:45:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00001000


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HL        H10 0251 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000102379026
   Coding: 010E57204040220001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: C3C6E77F42702F9EDF-8096

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 441 D    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0030 
   Revision: --H03---    Serial number: 525PA8-J9Y21HR
   Coding: 1000305
   Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
   VCID: A10A4DF7782C1D8EAD-80F4

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F9 910 591     HW: 4F9 827 851 G
   Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H29 0410 
   Revision: --H29001    Serial number: E5030000B     
   Shop #: WSC 98765 666 38354
   VCID: EC946CC3CF6E00E64E-80B8

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F9 910 592
   Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H29 0410

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: E5030100B     

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: RD23.11.09--H29001001B0190ˇ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 1B0190ˇ

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HR        H10 0251 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000102378995
   Coding: 010E57204040220001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: C3C6E77F42702F9EDF-8096

No fault code found.

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B5NUT

Well-Known Member
VCDS Map User
It should have the 20pin gateway (and does looking at the part number in the scan) however it's not going to have compatible 3GP software installed on it. I used a gateway from a Q7 as the facelift Q7 did have 3GP system installed from factory, and everything worked as it should (steering wheel controls, time, DIS, climate and vehicle settings) Now when I fitted 3GP 4/5 years ago the q7 gateway was the only option to get things working, however someone far more clever than I may have figured out how to update the A6 C6 20pin gateway with compatible 3GP software. But you would need to find the flash file if it exist and then get the tools to flash the gateway.
 
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pploeser

Registered User
Sounds like the easiest path would just be to swap in a facelift Q7 gateway. Sidenote, my wife has a 2015 Q7, that’s what started this whole MMI upgrade endeavor...

Would I also need to do the alternator swap?
 

B5NUT

Well-Known Member
VCDS Map User
Not 100% sure on that, but as you already have the 20pin gateway where the BCM is on the gateway so I think you will be OK for that. Remember if you change the gateway every module on the car that has component protection it will be enabled. So you will have to change it with the person/garage that has the ODIS tool.
 

pploeser

Registered User
Not 100% sure on that, but as you already have the 20pin gateway where the BCM is on the gateway so I think you will be OK for that. Remember if you change the gateway every module on the car that has component protection it will be enabled. So you will have to change it with the person/garage that has the ODIS tool.

No turning back now. I have a local tech who can remove CP. This seems to be the answer I’ve been looking for. Thanks so much guys! Off to eBay...
 

pploeser

Registered User
Comparing scans from my A6 and my wife’s Q7 (factory 3GP) I assume the critical element is the software suffix?

4F0 907 468 S
EB204A7B-82F7-4B33-B3DC-14585600A760.jpeg 1CB855AA-CD9C-47BE-BBF1-377608EEF3BD.jpeg
 

B5NUT

Well-Known Member
VCDS Map User
Yes, it needs to be from a FL Q7 so it has the later software, that was why I talked about flashing the gateway to a later version.
 

pploeser

Registered User
Ok, ordered a used gateway from a facelift Q7 and confirmed with my mechanic that they’ll remove protection for me after the swap. Should know something in a couple weeks. Shame the car has just been sitting in the garage most of the past 5 weeks.
 

pploeser

Registered User
So in the meantime I’m trying to figure out my data connection. I bought a generic gsm antenna on eBay and connected it to the back of the head unit but I get the antenna fault in VCDS and “no signal” on the phone settings in MMI. There’s no fakra cable going into the glove box.

There appear to be 3 lines coming from the aerial antenna but I could only see the connectors on two. Blue (GPS) and white (radio?). If the third one is purple (phone) I suspect there’s an amplifier between the sharkfin and head unit. Does anyone know where it’s located on C6? Is this what it looks like?

C8D0DA94-A7AF-4115-A108-E515F8B00CF1.jpeg

I’m thinking maybe in the dash next to glove box? I pulled off the side panels inside the tailgate and only found radio and backup cam modules.

I’d like to know if I need to add just a wire from the booster, or if I also need to add the booster plus a line to the sharkfin etc.
 

pploeser

Registered User
I installed the gateway from a facelift Q7 and updated the coding and installation list to match my original gateway. It has put everything into protection as stated above.

I'm still getting the previous faults in the MMI module though, "Incorrect Software Version" and "Functionality Limited due to Missing Messages", and menu screens are still grayed out as before. Should I expect component protection removal correct that or do I still have a software issue in the gateway? I'm hesitant to spend the money on CP removal if I don't yet have the correct hardware/software combo.

I'm only out $45 for the gateway but CP removal will cost me more than that.

Any thoughts? Here is my latest scan:

Code:
Wednesday,22,April,2020,22:34:49:58743
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.0.1 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4508.4
Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: HOME

VIN: WAU4GBFBXAN045143   License Plate: A6
Mileage: 147380km-91577mi   Repair Order: 20200422-02



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Chassis Type: FB-AU56 (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 47 4C 4F 52 53 55
          56 5F 62 6C 6D 72

VIN: WAU4GBFBXAN045143   Mileage: 147380km-91577miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (CCA)       Labels:. 06E-907-551-CAJ.clb
   Part No SW: 4F1 910 551 D    HW: 4F1 907 551
   Component: 3.0l V6 TFSI        0020 
   Revision: --H06---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 010D000A190F0120
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: A40444E3673E08A6C6-80F0

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F9 910 156 A    HW: 09L 927 156 C
   Component: AG6 09L 3,0TFSI USA 0020 
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number:        4560765
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 41184 001 1048576
   VCID: AA18AADB051ADED6FC-80FE

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AL    HW: 4F0 614 517 BA
   Component: ESP8 quattro    H03 0060 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0020921
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: EE9066CBF972F2F660-80BA

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B    HW: 4F0 905 852 E
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H05 0100 
   Revision: 00H05000    Serial number: 10602501435678
   Coding: 0000135
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: A50259E76C04F1AED1-80F0

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 L
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H03 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 335 B
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 KSG   H03 0020

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 05:59:59


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 B    HW: 4F1 820 043 AL
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0080 
   Revision: 00000074    Serial number: 00000000687979
   Coding: 0524582
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 9D7271074454396E89-80C8

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 06:00:17

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00001111


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 M    HW: 4F0 907 279 A
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H22 0320 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0139123
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: B326B7BFD2D09F1E4F-80E6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AudiC6  H10 0040 
   Coding: 00056595
   Shop #: WSC 02335 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003 
   Coding: 00146221
   Shop #: WSC 02335 

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R41)       Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 110 A    HW: 4F0 035 110
   Component: CDC-MP3-Alp   H44 0140 
   Revision: AA001001   
   VCID: 956269277C64612E41-80C0

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 4F0-910-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 R    HW: 4F0 959 655 H
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0160 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003FA0013YUA
   Coding: 303142373034303030324A55304C34463053
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: B6208EAB09A28A3668-80E2

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 339 B    HW: 4F0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H03 0060
   Serial number: 5810000R0000003CTX
   Coding: 000000

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3574SRB40000A21D11A+

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 3584SRB40000A340622V

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
   Serial number: 3516HRB402J9KI9ISKMO

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
   Serial number: 3526HRB402T9LBCGU4C6

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3554NRB400005217DCC5

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 3564NRB4000052B063AY

1 Fault Found:
13697280 - Component Protection
          U1101 00 [137] - Active
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 06:14:07


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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A    HW: 4F0 953 549 C
   Component: J0527               0530 
   Revision: 00H06000    Serial number: 90055093140014
   Coding: 0012342
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: A71E53EF1608E3BEE3-80F2

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           H02 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 920 983 H    HW: 4F0 920 983 H
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H08 0144 
   Revision: 00100000    Serial number: CN406ELC9     
   Coding: 8BDF12050B00D705020201
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: B12ABDB7E8CCAD0E3D-80E4

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 06:00:07


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 4F0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 R    HW: 4F0 907 468 F
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0058 
   Revision: LB600036    Serial number: 3600L125210328
   Coding: 000303
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: BE30968B29924276B0-80EA

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 C    HW: 8K0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0125
   Serial number: 00000000002790803328

2 Faults Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 11:21:51

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    10111
                    Voltage: 11.40 V
                    Count: 7
                    Text: FFF1746C20822101
                    Text: FFF1746C20822101
                    Raw, Index/Key Err.: 241 116 108
                    (no units): 33.0

02095 - Component Protection Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 11:21:53

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:    10111
                    Voltage: 11.40 V
                    Count: 7
                    Text: FFF1746C20822101
                    Text: FFF1746C20822101
                    Raw, Index/Key Err.: 241 116 108
                    (no units): 33.0


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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 760 C    HW: 4F0 959 760 C
   Component: MEM-FS        H08 0062 
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001010033638
   Coding: 00581B00004011110000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: B12ABDB7E8CCAD0E3D-80E4

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 06:00:14


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4F0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
   Component: TSG FA        H11 0250 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000102348829
   Coding: 011F57204E40410001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: C6C0FE6B71421AB6F8-8092

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 K    HW: 4F0 907 289 K
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H27 0220 
   Revision: 02200027    Serial number: 01238052570000
   Coding: 8288925
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: B228B2BB2DCA961644-80E6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 06:00:08


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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 223 P    HW: 4F0 035 223 P
   Component: BOSE G3 C6    H01 0100 
   Revision: AG001300    Serial number: 00000000049144
   Coding: 05010000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: A91A55D7C01CD5CEF5-80FC

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 11:03:30


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Address 4C: Tire Pressure II        Labels: 4F0-910-274.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 274 A    HW: 4F0 907 274
   Component: J793  RKA+      H02 0100 
   Revision: 00000506    Serial number: 00005061084500
   Coding: 0623301
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: A20842FB7D2A0696B4-80F6

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 C
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H13 0100 
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000534329
   Coding: 0002014
   Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
   VCID: DEF0360B09D26276D0-808A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4F0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
   Component: TSG BF        H11 0250 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000102365237
   Coding: 011F57204E40410001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: C5C2F9674C4411AEF1-8090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D    HW: 4F0 907 801 B
   Component: EPB  CEFC0090   H05 0090 
   Revision: --H05---   
   Coding: 0000222
   Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
   VCID: A10A4DF7782C1D8EAD-80F4

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4L0 910 357     HW: 4L0 907 357
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0060 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000026
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: E99A15D7C09C15CE35-80BC

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 D
   Component: AFS-Modul links H01 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 D
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH01 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F0 035 082 A    HW: 4F0 035 082
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H45 0021 
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 335KZ097540373
   Coding: 020000010000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: 9D7271078454396E89-80C8

1 Fault Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 208
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 06:16:12


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 035 746 M    HW: 4H0 035 746 C
   Component: H-BNT-NA      H50 1038 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 183BY0D7506544
   Coding: 000200010003E1EE43000F446F632003140001000100000002
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: B228B2BBEDCA961644-80E6

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 BA
   Component: NAR 2013  0703

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604     HW: 4F0 919 604
   Component: DU7 High  H43 0306
   Serial number: 9356KH091130021     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 609 E    HW: 4F1 919 611 T
   Component: Bedienteil MM  H01 0060
   Serial number: 00000001455548     

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 E
   Component: CD-Database  4949

4 Faults Found:
02095 - Component Protection Active
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 11:15:07

01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 11:15:06

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 10000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000010
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000

01524 - Antenna for Telephone
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 11:15:17

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 11.60 V

03278 - Functionality Limited due to Missing Messages
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 147389 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2009.06.23
                    Time: 11:15:16

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000 00001000


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HL        H10 0251 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000102379026
   Coding: 010E57204040220001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: C3C6E77F42702F9EDF-8096

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 441 D    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0030 
   Revision: --H03---    Serial number: 525PA8-J9Y21HR
   Coding: 1000305
   Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
   VCID: A10A4DF7782C1D8EAD-80F4

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4F9 910 591     HW: 4F9 827 851 G
   Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H29 0410 
   Revision: --H29001    Serial number: E5030000B     
   Shop #: WSC 98765 666 38354
   VCID: EC946CC3CF6E00E64E-80B8

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F9 910 592
   Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H29 0410

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: E5030100B     

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: RD23.11.09--H29001001B0190ˇ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 1B0190ˇ

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M    HW: 8K0 959 795 B
   Component: TSG HR        H10 0251 
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000102378995
   Coding: 010E57204040220001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
   VCID: C3C6E77F42702F9EDF-8096

No fault code found.

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B5NUT

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VCDS Map User
CP removal has to be done on every module, why did the garage not do that to start with as ODIS has an automated process to remove it from every module. With CP enabled on a lot of the module including the gateway & cluster you have no idea what restrictions are being place on the car.

I would not be paying the garage to further CP removal, as they have not even done half a job.
 

pploeser

Registered User
CP removal has to be done on every module, why did the garage not do that to start with as ODIS has an automated process to remove it from every module. With CP enabled on a lot of the module including the gateway & cluster you have no idea what restrictions are being place on the car.

I would not be paying the garage to further CP removal, as they have not even done half a job.

Hi - just to be clear, I did the gateway swap and some VCDS coding only, on my own. I've not been to the garage yet for CP removal. They said they'll remove it from all modules no problem, I just need to schedule the visit. Thus far they have done all I've requested and offer very good work, just not cheap.

My point was I'd like to be sure CP removal will re-gain control of the settings I'm after. Seems the way to go. Planning to get on their schedule for next week. Hope to report back with some success soon. Thanks again for the assistance and advice!
 

DJAlix

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CP removal has to be done on every module, why did the garage not do that to start with as ODIS has an automated process to remove it from every module. With CP enabled on a lot of the module including the gateway & cluster you have no idea what restrictions are being place on the car.

I would not be paying the garage to further CP removal, as they have not even done half a job.
Actually it depends on the vehicle and the technician. If the vehicle allows it then a "targeted" CP removal is possible, and if the tech is lazy, then they might chose to remove CP on just the module in question. Using a golf MK7 for example you can do the following:

Retrofitted Media System will trigger CP in the 5F - Infotainment Elect and the Gateway would mirror this error. CP removal would behave as follows:

1) CP removal process triggered via Gateway would see the whole vehicle being scanned and every security enabled module processed, gateway, dash, HVAC etc etc
2) CP removal process triggered via the 5F would only process / removal CP from the 5F. The error would then be cleared from the gateway.

Bottom line is if you have Component Protection active on a module then things are not gonna work correctly until its been removed, and the "things" which don't work will be different per module and gateway so for example on an Audi A3 8V BCM the inter lights will not work and instrument lighting will be very dim.
 
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