Retro Cruise Control 1.8T Auto

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Hi Guys,

i was wondering if i can fit a retro CC kit to my 2004 1.8T Auto.

I have fitted these previously to my Bora's & Passat but they were manuals.

thanks in advance.
 
I'm not 100% sure but I believe you just fit the required modules. Make sure you have the correct steering module and get the correct stalk and then program it in with vcds.
 
i'll have a chat with Audi and see how much they quote for the parts.
thanks again.
 
hi mate fitting is easy, done it with mine. you will need the coms unit and the crusie control switch. and then take it to a garage/ ato electrican that has vcd. and get them to programme the engine ecu to recognise the cc is there. that all there is to it.
 
should there be any wiring to this? and whats DIS?

No wiring, they're all modules that plug and play. You actually already have the modules, these are just the required ones to get the CC working.

Also, DIS is driver information screen. You may already have this, but you can cycle through miles to empty, mpg, average mpg, average speed and time with ignition on.
 
No wiring, they're all modules that plug and play. You actually already have the modules, these are just the required ones to get the CC working.

Also, DIS is driver information screen. You may already have this, but you can cycle through miles to empty, mpg, average mpg, average speed and time with ignition on.

i think i already have this as i always have it set to Miles to empty.

i've contacted audi and they are sending out a stalk for me. they checked my reg and said i only need the stalk and then to code it which i should be able to do with my vag com.
 
i think i already have this as i always have it set to Miles to empty.

i've contacted audi and they are sending out a stalk for me. they checked my reg and said i only need the stalk and then to code it which i should be able to do with my vag com.

If it is on miles to empty only, then you don't have the full DIS. You need the wiper stalk with the buttons on the end, and the reset button.

If you have VCDS (vag-com) do a full scan and post it here (in quote tags, or code tags if they have them) and we'll see if all you need is the stalk.

In any case, you'll need the lower shroud as well, as there will be no hole of the stalk to stick out of.
 
Scrap what I said, no need for a full scan, just open the modules and go to steering. Then show us the part number. That will say if you have high line steering module, and if you don't, you'll need that too.
 
sorry i should have been more clear. my car is a S line, it has the buttons on the end for all the DIS options.

i'll try and get some pics up for you.
 
OK, mine is an s4, has the DIS but doesn't have the high line steering module. The best and easiest way would be to open vcds and go to modules and steering wheel and you'll get the part number that and then we can tell you if you have the correct module to allow for CC
 
OK, mine is an s4, has the DIS but doesn't have the high line steering module. The best and easiest way would be to open vcds and go to modules and steering wheel and you'll get the part number that and then we can tell you if you have the correct module to allow for CC
cool i'll give this a try and report back.
 
I completed the CC retrofit last month (and a MFSW too, but that's another story).

From the research I did, you will need a specific revision steering wheel control module (SWCM) to support cruise, see here (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Cruise_Control_Retrofitting_(8E)), or as mattmanwrx said: highline or midline. So if your SWCM part number ends in L, N, M, P, Q or R, it will work.

I think you have to do some wiring if you don't have the sensor for seeing windscreen washer low, as the connection to the sensor is routed through the SWCM. I think basic trim cars with no 'trip information computer/MPG/travel time/etc' are the ones that need additional wiring.

Read the Ross tech wiki properly and remember to take note of the current Brakes system soft coding in VCDS as it is lost if a new SWCM is installed (it won't reset if you don't change yours, if it is compatible)

Use https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa...ycF6bk7OW4gfcRIk1Om47g&bvm=bv.116274245,d.d2s

for the 'security' login code for your car for the ABS module if you need to recode (different depending on spec).

Also remember to code the CC into the ECU module as well as the SWCM otherwise it won't work.....as I found by not reading the guide fully......
 
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I think you have to do some wiring if you don't have the sensor for seeing windscreen washer low, as the connection to the sensor is routed through the SWCM. I think basic trim cars with no 'trip information computer/MPG/travel time/etc' are the ones that need additional wiring.

Now this is strange. I have low line steering module, so cannot fit CC. However, I have full DIS and I have the windscreen washer low warning too.

The s4 cab was the base model and options added (I have found from my research) so not too sure what's going on there. Hopefully fitting my CC kit on the weekend, so I will have to go through all of this. We'll see.

Thanks for the info though @Icarus83
 
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Now this is strange. I have low line steering module, so cannot fit CC. However, I have full DIS and I have the windscreen washer low warning too.

The s4 cab was the base model and options added (I have found from my research) so not too sure what's going on there. Hopefully fitting my CC kit on the weekend, so I will have to go through all of this. We'll see.

Thanks for the info though @Icarus83
No worries!

Oh I don't know about cabs, quite possibly different altogether!

All I remember was somewhere in the instruction guides/forums quite a few guys reported that by upgrading the SWCM/CC they suddenly got a weird error because the washer sensor was not installed .....I think.

It could be older models don't have the sensor wiring as standard, much like older ones don't have CANBUS bulb out warnings.....although I'm just guessing.
 
No worries!

Oh I don't know about cabs, quite possibly different altogether!

All I remember was somewhere in the instruction guides/forums quite a few guys reported that by upgrading the SWCM/CC they suddenly got a weird error because the washer sensor was not installed .....I think.

It could be older models don't have the sensor wiring as standard, much like older ones don't have CANBUS bulb out warnings.....although I'm just guessing.

It is very true that cabs are different, most things are different for them compared to the saloon and avant (I.e. the rear valance does disattatch to the bumper, when all my searching said it didn't (as it doesn't on saloon and avant)).

I do think I have remembered seeing something about the missing wiring for washer bottle, or something.

But anyway, thanks again for the info.
 
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The washer sensor goes down to earth, so if you don't have the sensor in the bottle you need to earth the warning light at the instrument cluster.
People use a repair wire, as this will have the correct pin to insert in the ins cluster multiplug then ground the other end!
 
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im going threw this pain at the moment on my avant, the cable you need to add is only needed if your adding the DIS stalk

info on fitting wire is hear :
http://www.audi-sport.net/xf/threads/dis-retro-fitted-but-button-blanks-the-display.119329/

im struggling to find some one to code it all up for me i have it all fitted but not sure if its coded correctly and my version on the vcds does not allow me to change coding so a fear an expensive trip to Audi comping up
 
Just out side Birmingham I am :( there just don't seem to be any specialist round by me
 
Just out side Birmingham I am :( there just don't seem to be any specialist round by me

Have you looked on the VCDS map? If not I know of a company that travel to do this kinda work. Well, they do all the work not sure if just the VCDS bit
 
going by what you guys are saying about coding i take it it's not as simple as logging into vagcom and flicking a switch from OFF to ON to activate CC?
 
Taken from another site.......



To enable Cruise Control and DIS, you need to do the following:

1) Open VAG-COM (connected to your port and ignition in position II)
2) Click on module '16 - Steering Wheel'
3) Go into 'Recode (07)'
4) The only bit in the code you need to change is the second last digit (i.e. 0xxNx - where N is the bit to change, x are your current values). If you do not currently have CC or DIS, this should be '0'.
5) Make a note of the current coding!!
6) Change N to '4' (i.e. 0xx4x)
6) Click on 'Do it'.

7) Go back to the main 'Select Control Module' screen.
8) Click on the module '17 - Instruments'
9) Go into 'Adaption - 10'
10) Go to channel 19 and click on 'Read'
11) Make a note of the 'Stored Value'.
12) This may be a bit more of a tricky one, so if you are stuck, let me know the stored value and I'll tell you which code to enter. Basically, you'd need to have x12xx, where 'x' is your current value and 12 is the new coding. For help on what this means, try this site:
 
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And this is from the first post that replied to you, where I gave you a link to the guide.

VAG COM Coding
20. First of all you need to code the SCSM with the correct coding.
Note 1. Open VAG-COM (connected to your port and ignition in position II)
Note 2. Click on module [16 - Steering Wheel]
Note 3. Go into [Coding – 07]
Note 4. Using the code from your previous SCSM, you need to determine the new code for your module.
The only bit that you should change is the second last digit (i.e. 0xxNx - where N is the bit to
change, x are your current values). If you do not currently have CC or DIS, this should be '0'.
Note 5. Enter the new code.
Note 6. Click on [Do it!].
(See Appendix A for the full coding breakdown for the SCSM)
21. In my case, as I fitted a second hand SCSM, I had to make the SCSM “learn” my car’s VIN.
Step 1. Go into [Adaptation – 10]
Step 2. Select channel 81
Step 3. Select New Value = 00111
Step 4. Hit enter on your keyboard, or click [Save]
Step 5. Select [Done, Go Back]
22. Clear the SCSM fault codes, and confirm non re-appear.
Step 1. Go to [Fault Codes – 02]
Step 2. Select [Clear Codes – 05]
Step 3. Select [Done, Go Back]
23. Next you need to log in to your brakes module.
Step 1. To work out your login code, see Appendix B. Use the existing coding of your car to work out
what’s installed, then determine the log in code from that. My login was 09295 for my S4.
Step 2. From the module selection page, select [03 – ABS Brakes]
Step 3. Go to [Login – 11]
Step 4. Enter your code and select [Do It!]
Step 5. If you get the login code incorrect, you will get "Connection lost due to dropped session" error
and you will have to turn the ignition off, take the key out, and start again.
24. Once you have logged in correctly, you need to re-code the module. Formulate your coding from
Appendix B /use your previously recorded value. Mine was 04595 for the S4.
Step 1. Select [Coding – 07]
Step 2. Enter your code in “Software Coding”
Step 3. Select [Do It!]
25. When you have done that, DO NOT CLOSE THE CONTROLLER. If you do, you'll have to log in and re-code
again.

26. Now complete the steering angle sensor recalibration. (Remember, don't close the controller before you
do this, it must be done in the same session).
Step 1. Select [Fault Codes - 02]
Step 2. Select [Done, Go Back]
Step 3. Turn steering wheel at least 30 ° left and back straight ahead.
Step 4. Select [Meas. Blocks - 08]
Step 5. Enter Group 005, [Go!]
Field 1 (Steering Angle Sensor -G85-)
Specification: 0.0 °
Tolerance (when straight): ±5.0 ° (Note - When the steering wheel is straight the value shown
should be -5 - +5 degrees, set it in between these values and leave it there for the rest of the
procedure)
Step 6. Select [Done, Go Back]
27. Next you need to code the brakes module for cruise:
Step 1. Select [Login - 11]
Step 2. Enter 40168
Step 3. Select [Do It!]
Step 4. Select [Basic Settings - 04]
Step 5. Enter Group 001, [Go!]
Step 6. If successful the blocks should read something like Steering Angle Adjust OK
Step 7. [Done, Go Back]
Step 8. Select [Fault Codes - 02], all fault codes should have disappeared.
Step 9. Select [Done, Go Back]
Step 10.Select [Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
28. To finish the job you need to code the engine for cruise:
Step 1. From the module selection page, select [01 – Engine]
Step 2. Select [Login – 11]
Step 3. Enter 11463
Step 4. Select [Do It!]
That should be it! Now your errors should disappear, and Cruise Control should be correctly set up!
 
hope you got this issue sorted. ive got dis on mine. all i did was to fit the coms unit that came from the donor car. no wiring was modified and took it to my mate and he programmed the motor ecu to accept the cc.
 
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Iv managed to get hold of genuine vcds for a few days so got the DIS all working last night as expected was coded wrong and coded for a saloon and iv got an avant lol will be trying to sort cruise this evening as I think it's all coded correctly but it's saying iv got faulty cruise switch so need to look at this later
 
to get rid of the low washer bottle warning was quite fidelity but i managed to removed the blue plug opened it up slipped in a wire was quite happy doing this as the wire will be held in place by the plug as its a tight fit!!!!!! but also i also found i didn't need to earth the wire weird?? seems that just the wire being in there was enough to removed the error ......but to be sure i still earthed it as i wanted piece of mind
 
Where can i get a copy of vcds from?
It's free to download from ross-tech website.

The cost is the ross-tech OBDII cable as the licence is built into the hardware/circuit board.

Hence you can use a cheap eBay vcds leads with the vcds software but many of the higher functions and coding are disabled without a genuine cable.