S3 - Lowering Springs

Oli.

Registered User
Has anyone lowered their S3 with springs and not coilovers, without sacrificing the ride too much? And if so what springs work well with it?

Cheers
 

L33TAY

Registered User
Hi Oli

I Have done MUCH re-search into this, and spoke with many performance centres, Awesome GTI etc etc.

The only one that is available by the looks of it are H&R springs, they lower the S3 by about 25 ish mm, and they sit really well after fitment apparently.

Mine is booked in at Awesome GTI on March 3rd for fitting, along with 10mm spacers all round.

Hope this helps :icon_thumright:

Lee
 

Oli.

Registered User
What have they said the ride is like? Do you have any pics?

I have a two boys and a wife, and am concerned tht when loaded up the ride will be poor. I am fitting 19's Black CH's, so lowering is a must. My 335D touring has H & R springs and they are good, but a bit too crashy over potholes - It isnt like this on the saloon 335D - And I dont want to ruin the S3's ride like this??
 

richs2891

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I would be interested in seeing pics of an S3 with these springs fitted - but am interested in does it make the rear springs react any quicker than standard ones, as I find it seems a bit slow to react at times - and then crashes over bumps.

Richard
 

L33TAY

Registered User
I don't get the car till 1st March, springs fitted on the 3rd, so will post pics straight after!

Believe the ride is not much different than standard springs, but will let you know.
Lee
 

Rabbit222

Registered User
Hi, I have had H&R springs fitted to my S3 since the day she rolled off the show room floor! Springs are awesome but the ride tends to be a bit hard especially with 19" wheels. Below are pics of my car :

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phantom

On Boost
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Looks lovely that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If i got the H & R springs and put them on with the std wheels , but at a later date wanted 19's , would i have to chage springs again?

p
 

Rabbit222

Registered User
phantom said:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Looks lovely that^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If i got the H & R springs and put them on with the std wheels , but at a later date wanted 19's , would i have to chage springs again?

p

Thanks mate.

Nope the springs stay so you can just swop your wheels:icon_thumright:
 

Oli.

Registered User
Great looking car rabbit222.

Whats the ride like going over potholes etc? Is it crashy?

Any help much appreciated? What size are your CH's 19x? and are you running 235? ANy rubbing issues

Sorry for all the questions,but I like to get everything right, before I do it

many thanks
 

klauster

Registered User
here is my old S3 with the standard rims lowered on H&R springs, had the ARB's fitted too.

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I have 10mm spacers on front and back too

I found the ride spot on, just firms it up nicely
 
What about Abt? Has nobody considered them?
 

N8

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You boys really need to start going down the coilover route, smoother ride, better ride height.
 
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L60N

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Where is the best place to get spacers from?
How much are the H&R springs?

I want to lower the car and push out the wheels a little to give it a squatter stance :rockwoot:
 

N8

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I can get spacer prices...
 

klauster

Registered User
the spacers were H&R 10mm, I had the ARB's and springs all done at the same time. Speak with AwesomeGTI, did a spot on job. I think all in all it was £1k (spacers,springs and arbs)
 

Oli.

Registered User
One thing that no one has answered for me yet, is with the H & R springs, what is it like over potholes and imperfections in the road? I dont want to fi the springs if I have to play doge the pothole etc, because of the crashy suspension

many thanks
 

JamS3

Registered User
I have just the H & R springs on with spacers front and rear all supplied by Damian at DPM.

It looks far better and also handles better so much so I'm not going to bother with coilover and in repsponse to your question Oli.H it does firm the ride up but only slightly, potholes and bumps are still bearable!
 

Oli.

Registered User
Cheers Jam. I have H & R's on my 335D, and it just thumps through pot holes, which isnt a pleasant experience!!!

Definately putting H & R's on my S3 when I get it. I have one on demo for a week starting tomorrow to confirm if I want to go for one or not?!
 

N8

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COILOVERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule: :keule:

ITS LIKE TALKING TO MYSELF
 

Oli.

Registered User
But why put coilovers on when springs are suffice!!!!!

Maybe no bodies listening because you are like a stuck record.....ha ha - Dont take offence to that
 

dunk

Registered User
fundamentally coilovers are the same as springs and dampers but with height adjustment and maybe damping adjustment

if you get the right spring rate/height - and user experience tells us which ones are ok/too low /too hard, then unless you track the car you are very unlikely to ever adjust the height.

after that its just getting a good damper that works well with the springs/car rate, possibly adjustable but again for most users we want a fit/forget good road compromise.

my rs 4 had h&r pcs coilovers but they were too uncompromising for road use - if you softened the damping to increase comfort then the springs were underdamped and you could tell with the handling. stiffening them up loosened my fillings and threatened my marriage!
i swapped them for springs and koni non-adjustables and the road manners and comfort were drastically improved without any underdamping or wallowing

and of course the springs/damper route is usually cheaper.

if the coilover kits actually bothered to adjust the geometry such as adding negative camber then i could see that they would be worth the extra possibly
 

N8

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lol. You guys are obviously just happy with spring hardness and that height at which your car is sat on springs. il leave u alone
 

Rabbit222

Registered User
Oli.H said:
Cheers Jam. I have H & R's on my 335D, and it just thumps through pot holes, which isnt a pleasant experience!!!

Definately putting H & R's on my S3 when I get it. I have one on demo for a week starting tomorrow to confirm if I want to go for one or not?!

Definitely is thumpy over potholes but other than that...they work a charm. My CHs are 19s and tyres are 235/35/19s. I had to remove 2 screws on each rear arch due to a bit of touching. Sorts the problem out immediately.
 
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