Shades said:I deg to biffer. It is absolutely possible in a Fwd. Just ask my friends that were in the back of my Punto. The road in the clip is very wet too, I did it on a dry day.
S3 AD said:''I deg to biffer. It is absolutely possible in a Fwd. Just ask my friends that were in the back of my Punto. The road in the clip is very wet too, I did it on a dry day.''
Beg to DIFFER all you like but I think you need to differ with physics to do that in a FWD car!!
Blue_Turbo said:Yes you can drift FWD cars, there is a series in japan for FWD mini vans.
Blue_Turbo said:Yes you can drift FWD cars, there is a series in japan for FWD mini vans.
S3 AD said:Beg to DIFFER all you like but I think you need to differ with physics to do that in a FWD car!!
Beerzo said:I have lost the will to argue!
GSB1 said:Shades. Stop while you are behind. I think your clips prove the others points. Possible but not for that duration/consistency.
Shades said:I never said it was possible for the same duration/consistency. Okay, its not drifting in the traditional sense, perhaps the more pedantic amongst you would like to call it 'sliding' instead of drifting. It takes a lot of steering wheel shuffling to prevent the back end from gripping (because its not being powered round the rear naturally wants to straighten up) and it doesn't always work (I never said it did) but you can do it.
Perhaps nows the time to admit my old Punto had very hard suspension (you could try to bounce it at each corner by physically pushing down on it but it wouldn't bounce!), it had very, very light power-steering, it had very grippy UniRoyal rainsport 2's on the front (very good wet weather tyre and not too bad in the dry either) and AVS Sport on the rear (exceptional dry weather tyres but a bit crap in the wet!). All of this meant that on a (slippery) surface it was easy to lose traction at the rear and possible to prevent the rear from gripping. There was no dramatic changing of direction possible like in a traditional RWD because you needed to go in a bit of a straight line to whip the rear end out the other way but once you got it sliding...
Beerzo said:Your second sentence here proves the point its a slide not dirfting! Anyone can get a FWD car sideways but to sustain a large 'drift' round a round about like that is not on the cards. They sure as hell cant drift in FWD like 4WD or RWD.
rodenal said:Shades, those cars are not drifting, they are correcting what would otherwise be a ltotal oss of control through the skid.
A drift is a deliberate, powered, maintainable slide its totally totally different.
I'm not saying it doesnt take a fair bit of skill to catch a FWD car that has started to slide like that, infact if it was to happen to 9/10 people on the road unexpectedly the hedge would be the stopper, but its just not a drift, at all. End of.
scib4 said:You can DRIFT (correct phrase) a FWD but not in the way you can a RWD or 4WD.