So is anyone concerned what the effects of a vote for the UK to leave the EU next week could be on existing or future Audi (or other manufacturers from countries inside the EU) orders in the short and long term? Increased prices? Harder importing? More/less red tape? Delays?
Effects of an EU Exit?
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If the vote is to leave the EU then I suggest you ask the same question is 12 months time. I very much doubt if there is anyone, including all the politicians, who has any idea at all at the moment.
Make that at least 36-48 months, if anyone thinks if we decide to exit it will take any less time to untangle our ties with Europe and work out if we are better off or worse off or whether we have more control think again....all an exit vote does is heighten the level of global uncertainty over everything and if that is what you want then vote accordingly.....and I am a completely a non political animal and just worried about what might happen to my pension in the next 5-7 years, stability is good for pensions as you get near to retirement ...rant over ...now where is the rapid detailer !!!!!
^ this.
The luxury car manufacturers like VAG, Merc, BMW etc get a LOT of custom from the UK market.. Just because we decide to leave the EU (if we decide to leave..), these companies, and many others in many different industries, aren't going to turn around and say 'Well, you're not in the EU, so we're going to make it harder for you to get our products, even though we'll lose a shed load of money doing so..'
Doubt a huge deal will change on the face of it
Vote in.
But would it be in their hands, or would higher rates have to be applied based on EU trade rules? Don't know either way, just wondering.
As you say, it's all speculation to us at the moment
EU trade agreements would no longer stand so taxes/ excise duties would likely increase, but as one agreement goes out the window, more will be made between Britain and the EU to replace the old ones, and I imagine they'll be fairly similar.. If they tax us a shed load, we'd tax them a shed load under the same rules, benefitting nobody... But that's for highly paid people in fancy suits and Toyota Pruises to decide
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I was all for out, however, reading a lot, a LOT, on both sides of the argument it all comes back to basically how we are at the moment.
Personally, I think it's becoming a pointless vote! I don't see where it's a vote to change a million things and get this and that back! The main one on people's mind is immigration. We at present are not signed up to the no-borders rule (ie free movement). So if we vote out nowt changes! If we vote to stay nowt changes. Granted the rules on a lot needs changed. It that's our rules not the EUs. Also read today that the EU Supreme Court told the UK that they didn't need to pay child support that goes overseas anymore!! The more I think about it the more I think it's a stalemate?? Anyone thinking the same?
Personally, I think it's becoming a pointless vote! I don't see where it's a vote to change a million things and get this and that back! The main one on people's mind is immigration. We at present are not signed up to the no-borders rule (ie free movement). So if we vote out nowt changes! If we vote to stay nowt changes. Granted the rules on a lot needs changed. It that's our rules not the EUs. Also read today that the EU Supreme Court told the UK that they didn't need to pay child support that goes overseas anymore!! The more I think about it the more I think it's a stalemate?? Anyone thinking the same?
I go to German most years for at least one, quite often two holidays. If I was younger I know which country I would prefer to live in. My godson has lived and worked in German for many years and he loves the place.. It always seems to me as a very joined up place and a place where the car is still King but with far more is done to protect the planet and the environment than in the UK. The UK seems to spend most of the time looking backwards whereas German spends time looking forward. The also make great cars!
Wish more people knew about this immigration point!! It's what's fuelling a large chunk of the Brexitters, but as you say it won't change
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Immigration is the only thing that I care about in the whole 'Brexit' debate/vote..If by voting out gives us control over our borders then that is the way I will vote. I'm aware that there are other more important implications of an exit but for me immigration is the key issue...
It looks like it won't mate, the movement of people will stay much the same!
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I suppose you are right..But it will make it more difficult for the EU parliament to impose immigration quotas..
I agree. I personally don't think if we vote to leave the EU and all the unknowns that will bring we will still have as many people wanting to come to the UK and most will get in one way or another. The UK is seen as one of the best places to head for because we seem to have plenty of work for immigrants and if other Europeans do speak any other language it will almost certainly be English. One of the penalties we have to pay for having the most spoken language in the world.
If we leave the EU who will we have to blame for all our problems?
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The only reason we have so many immigrants is purely for the benefits that the government seem to hand out..As for the reason the government allows so many immigrants is the belief that it raises taxable income..We all know though that any amount of money they earn doesn't get spent here they just send it back to their family's back in their own country..
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5.2 million migrants do pay into the system though. And every year we have 1.2 million Brits going abroad to work. It evens its self out. The only plus we have is we are an island. Much harder to get into and get things into! Although, there will always be ways. I now, after reading things, don't think a Brixit vote will actually change anything.
Up here in beautiful Scotland with it glorious sunny hot weather we have always had an Indian and Pakistan community. Since I was tiny we they always had the corner shops or the takeaways. Nothing has really changed apart from a lot of political correctness! There should be three options. In, out and don't give a Sh1t as nowt will change anyway!
Up here in beautiful Scotland with it glorious sunny hot weather we have always had an Indian and Pakistan community. Since I was tiny we they always had the corner shops or the takeaways. Nothing has really changed apart from a lot of political correctness! There should be three options. In, out and don't give a Sh1t as nowt will change anyway!
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Lol..You should run for parliament Scotty...If you look anything like your avatar you've got my vote....
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Get Hannibal and the A-Team on to it. Crazy mad Murdoch would mess things up a bit and Face would just be a sleazy politician so he'd fit right it. BA is Boris, doesn't give a monkeys. 
I'm sorry but this is factually incorrect, and sounds like UKIP propganda. If you cared to look at the statistics regarding migration you'd see they're not here for the benefits, and those that do receive benefits have to pass a habitual residence test plus a right to reside test. Statistically speaking migrants are less likely to claim benefits than UK born citizens.
The argument goes that these migrants are wreaking havoc with schools across the country causing overcrowding issues. If this is so, then that suggests that their families are indeed in the country, therefore the money is not being sent back home.
Also, do you realise that tax avoidance costs this country in excess of £20bn in lost taxes each year? That's far more than benefits paid to migrants, but the Brexiters and the Murdoch media machine don't tell you to get angry at that fact. Why is that?
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It's got serious all of a sudden!! 
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We are signed up to the free movement of people.
It is one of the EU four freedoms of movement (goods/services/capital/people).
But we are not a member of the Schengen agreement, which allows the removal of physical border controls i.e. citizens of member states do not have to show passports at Borders.
Whereas we do.
The other confusing part is non-member states who participate in the single market (e.g Switzerland) which is a different thing altogether.
As for the referendum and buying an A3/S3?
Who knows?
Will we continue to buy premium German cars? It depends on the economy if we stay or leave.
Also the continued availability of cheap PCP deals, which has driven new car ownership in recent years.
Currency fluctuations will be the main concern for VAG selling to the UK.
But likely Sterling will weaken, which could work in their favour. But I would imagine they will likely be hedged against currency risk, at least for a period anyway.
It is one of the EU four freedoms of movement (goods/services/capital/people).
But we are not a member of the Schengen agreement, which allows the removal of physical border controls i.e. citizens of member states do not have to show passports at Borders.
Whereas we do.
The other confusing part is non-member states who participate in the single market (e.g Switzerland) which is a different thing altogether.
As for the referendum and buying an A3/S3?
Who knows?
Will we continue to buy premium German cars? It depends on the economy if we stay or leave.
Also the continued availability of cheap PCP deals, which has driven new car ownership in recent years.
Currency fluctuations will be the main concern for VAG selling to the UK.
But likely Sterling will weaken, which could work in their favour. But I would imagine they will likely be hedged against currency risk, at least for a period anyway.
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Clearly I'm not as factually aware as yourself on this matter...but it still won't make me change the way I'm going to vote...Good or bad who knows? but time will tell...
So you think by leaving the EU and stopping EU migration those migrants will not be replaced by non EU migrants to do the jobs the the Brits won't do....it's simple economics and supply and demand...we have net migration in but falling unemployment !,, out vote just gives us years of uncertainty with nothing changing. I don't care if a Pole or a Pakistani cleans the loos at the shopping centre or offers to clean my car outside Homebase
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Well, as this thread shows, every statistic can be manipulated for either side to prove a point.
All I know is that the local schools are FULL with none nationals, it takes 3 weeks to get a doctors appointment and the NHS is on its **** as there are so many using it having paid little or nothing in. If I go into town, every other voice I hear is Eastern European and most serious crime that happens involves a foreign name within the report......
Its about time we grew a pair and took back control of our own country....and thats why my mind is made up.
All I know is that the local schools are FULL with none nationals, it takes 3 weeks to get a doctors appointment and the NHS is on its **** as there are so many using it having paid little or nothing in. If I go into town, every other voice I hear is Eastern European and most serious crime that happens involves a foreign name within the report......
Its about time we grew a pair and took back control of our own country....and thats why my mind is made up.
Non-nationals aren't the only ones using these services while paying little or nothing towards them. In the town I live, the amount of British nationals on unemployment benefits (whilst taking cash in hand jobs, might I add... Just taking the p*ss) and housing benefits and any other kind of benefit they can get their hands on far outweighs the amount of non-nationals doing the same thing. There is a high population of Polish people living around where I live and where I work, but they all seem to be working.. every day.. therefore paying their taxes and contributing... I can't see that being an issue?!
Also a lot of the folks who have moved into Britain have become British Citizens, so they have the right, as much as anyone else, to live here, work here, pay their taxes, use the national services etc., so these people wont be 'kicked out' if we leave the EU..
As always, I'm not saying your views are wrong, they're just different to mine
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If you have to show your passport at every border then it's not free movement. Free movement is moving from country to country without being challenged for ID papers such as a passport. This happens within the ever decreasing Schengen zone but not for the UK or its citizens.
As this has become a purely political discussion and not really related to the A3, I think it's time for this thread to be closed.
Mods can you please oblige.
Mods can you please oblige.
Come on Dave!! it's an important debate, if you don't want to contribute don't read the thread. Just my opinion, let's not have another "Bantergate"
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I'm happy to let this thread run. Every member has a personal opinion. A personal opinion is exactly that, it's a persons own thoughts an should be respected by others. This thread is not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but here on audi-sport.net we allow members to have there say and input on any given subject. If and when this thread gets out of hand it will be looked at. If your not happy with the content of this posts subject may I suggest you just don't participate. Thank you.
