Fault code 16395

[rhubarb4]

Hi all, on the way to AITP my EML came on, Westy scanned it for me and sent me this info. This is the worrying one out of the 3 codes that came up. Does anyone know what it means or has anyone had this come up before if so what was the main cause and any idea how costly it will be to fix.

16395 - Bank 1: Camshaft A (Intake): ****** Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced)
P0011 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent


Possible Symptoms

• Power Loss

Possible Causes

• Camshaft Adjustment Valve 1 (N205) faulty
• Fuel Pump Relay (J17) faulty
• Mechanical Timing not correct, including Chain and/or Belt timing.

Possible Solutions

• Check Camshaft Adjustment Valve 1 (N205)
• Check Fuel Pump Relay (J17)
• Check Mechanical Timing

Thanks for looking, Chris.

 

[rhubarb4]

Anybody

 

[<tuffty/>]

I was having that fault code after I fitted an ebay VVT tensioner unit... I have since changed back to the VAG one and its gone... sorry to say it plausible the VVT tensioner needs replacing..

<tuffty/>

 

[SiGainey]

Yup, I had that on a knackered vvt unit too. No light but a code. New unit from the states solved it. Are you getting. Rattle on startup at all?

 

[rhubarb4]

Hi no not got any rattles, what is the VVT unit and mines not the 225bhp Bam only 210 AMK just incase. How much would that be and is it something a garage would have to fit.

Tuffty would it have anything to do with the oil pick up pipe just something someone said today.

Thanks for the replys

Chris.

 

[<tuffty/>]

Low oil pressure could contribute as the tensioner relies on oil to keep tension... difficult one but cheapest option initially would be to drop the sump and replace the pickup (cheap enough part)

<tuffty/>

 

[rhubarb4]

Ok il give that a try MidlandVW are round the corner from me so il get some prices and let you know how I get on

Thanks, Chris.

 

[S3 Nattie]

Its most likely the electrical part of the VVT that has failed which is probably why you are not getting any rattling by the VVT. I take it you have deleted the code and seen if it reappeared.

When I had this code I went through a whole timing belt kit plus changed the oil pump and pick-up etc, checked the VVT timing and it was the VVT in the end (which was free to ****** do as I just used my old one, oh well). The car didnt drive no different or make any noise which is why I think it was the electrical part of the unit which failed.

After I done all that work to my car I found out you could just test the VVT with a multimeter. I cannot remember what the tolerances were but I think it was between 10-17ohms, I cant remember 100% though.

VVT may not be your problem but thats my experience with this code you got.

 

[rhubarb4]

Its most likely the electrical part of the VVT that has failed which is probably why you are not getting any rattling by the VVT. I take it you have deleted the code and seen if it reappeared.

When I had this code I went through a whole timing belt kit plus changed the oil pump and pick-up etc, checked the VVT timing and it was the VVT in the end (which was free to ****** do as I just used my old one, oh well). The car didnt drive no different or make any noise which is why I think it was the electrical part of the unit which failed.

After I done all that work to my car I found out you could just test the VVT with a multimeter. I cannot remember what the tolerances were but I think it was between 10-17ohms, I cant remember 100% though.

VVT may not be your problem but thats my experience with this code you got.

Hi mate cheers for that, is it something I could change myself thats easy to access as I dont really know what it is, and if so is that reading 10-17ohms what I will get if its faulty, or what I should be getting if its working right.

Thanks Chris.

 

[S3 Nattie]

Sorry my bad, my previous post is wrong. I think the tolerances are meant to be between 10-15ohms and I was reading 17-20ohms if my memory is correct. Try and do a google search on how to test it.

The VVT isnt hard to change BUT if your not very mechanically minded I would leave it to someone who is qualified because if you get it wrong it can wreck your engine. It is quite straight forward and I have a few guides if you want me to link them.

Have you checked to see if the code has come back first.

 

[rhubarb4]

Hi no im going to get a scan done on it tomorrow hopefully, and I'm hopeless with mechanics lol. Any idea how much it would cost to have that changed though, just seems to suck all my money up lately Thanks for your help Nattie.

Cheers, Chris.

 

[S3 Nattie]

Well when I needed to change mine I seen a lot of post were people had paid Audi £300-400 labour @ £100/hour.

I would say a specialist would probably charge around £150-200 labour but thats just a guess though.

 

[rhubarb4]

Had it scanned today by Lewis583 HE also checket the resistance it waas just over 17ohms so within tollerence he's done a full scan so il post the results when I recieve them. I found the reason for the power loss today the hose to the manifold from the DV valve had split off completely after refitting it with a new tywrap the power was back he also thinks that could have caused the fuel lean fault too. We also checked my oil level which needs topping up a little and said that may have bought on the fault as im always parked on a hill it may have sat in one end of the sump to long.
I'v booked it in to have the pick up pipe changed though just as a precausionarry matter and il see what condition its in after,
THanks for your help Nathen/tuffty/Si and James.

 

[superkarl]

I had that code a couple of weeks ago when sandip scanned it, it was an intermittent fault and i had no light, I was worried and planned on checking the timing And maybe a cambelt. But i had tam(s3-baby) scan it at aitp and its gone, not reappeared.

 

[rhubarb4]

Its going in for the pick up pipe tomorrow so il get it scanned again after that to see if it reappears.

Thanks, Chris.

 

[chazza55]

Hi Chris,

Did you ever get this sorted? What was the problem for you?

I have the same error codes and am slowly trying to eliminate if its oil pickup, n205 solenoid, or vvt mechanism.

At £390 in vat from Audi for the VVT mech, i really hope its not that.

 

[rhubarb4]

Hi Chris,

Did you ever get this sorted? What was the problem for you?

I have the same error codes and am slowly trying to eliminate if its oil pickup, n205 solenoid, or vvt mechanism.

At £390 in vat from Audi for the VVT mech, i really hope its not that.

Hi Chazza I had the oil pick up pipe changed and nothings come back yet I had it scanned after it was done, Its about £100 to change it but its worth it any way as they get so clogged up. I havent had it scanned for a bit but hopefully its sorted now, iv got full power back so fingers crossed its an easy fix for you,

Chris.

 

[chazza55]

ok just an update on my situation with this to hopefully "feedback" into the fault troubleshooting databases of asn:

I too had the N205 over advanced/retarded setpoint not reached codes. The car would go into backup mode and if it stalled at low speed would always restart.

I replaced my oil pickup pipe.....there was cr*p in it.....BUT stilll didnt fix the problem. When i say cr*p i mean plastic! orange bits from when i replaced the thermostat last year and b*ggered the dip stick tube...but also some black plastic....(can anyone identify?..nothing seems broken....see picture).

Anyways...like i said that didnt solve the issue....the problem got worse to the point where the engine cutout on the motorway and wouldnt restart....recovery truck time.

This time the engine speed sensor (G28) fault code was showing...........when COLD the sensor was fine and resistances ok.....but when it was warmed up it was failing.

Replaced the G28 sensor and all is good now for a whole week. So what was happening is that the crank speed sensor was intermittent, the signal would slightly drop out and then come back in......as we know it is not just a speed sensor but a position reference for the injections etc.......so when the signal came back, the other sensors got confused.

But its worth noting that the engine speed sensor fault did not always occur in the original faults, but the over-advance/****** faults did............so the ecu codes did not point to the crank sensor.

So bottom line: dont take the fault codes as gospel, but a guide to point you in the right direction.........still use your brain on what else could be related! Thanks Chris for your advice earlier too.

All is well now and i have a smile back on my face!

 

[<tuffty/>]

....So bottom line: dont take the fault codes as gospel, but a guide to point you in the right direction.........still use your brain on what else could be related!...

Never a truer word spoken... its all about interpreting the fault codes and how they could of happened to establish what the possible problem is...

<tuffty/>

 

[giorgigio]

Any help havin same problem this
17963
16395
16396
Where do i start fixing what do i need do first thing is it safe 2 drive car HELP

 

[superkarl]

Any help havin same problem this
17963
16395
16396
Where do i start fixing what do i need do first thing is it safe 2 drive car HELP

Put your codes into the search bar:
http://www.ross-tech.com

 

[<tuffty/>]

Any help havin same problem this
17963
16395
16396
Where do i start fixing what do i need do first thing is it safe 2 drive car HELP

What car/model/year/engine code and what modifications/map would help too

<tuffty/>

 

[giorgigio]

What car/model/year/engine code and what modifications/map would help too

<tuffty/>

Sorry guys its audi s3 225bam and its been maped 5years a go and no modifications at all just a remap

 

[<tuffty/>]

Any other symptoms, noises etc?

First code is an overboost code which I'd be fairly sure isn't related... last two codes are related to the VVT tensioner so looks like it could be suffering from lack of oil pressure or is actually faulty... determining which is your next course of action..

<tuffty/>

 

[giorgigio]

Any other symptoms, noises etc?

First code is an overboost code which I'd be fairly sure isn't related... last two codes are related to the VVT tensioner so looks like it could be suffering from lack of oil pressure or is actually faulty... determining which is your next course of action..

<tuffty/>

How big of job is it do i need take sump of and clean all that or do i just go garage and let them do it i just dont want spend stupid money in garage tho

 

[giorgigio]

No

How big of job is it do i need take sump of and clean all that or do i just go garage and let them do it i just dont want spend stupid money in garage tho

No other symptons that i can think of

 

[<tuffty/>]

There is a link to a thread in the FAQs in the stickies showing sump removal and pick up cleaning

<tuffty/>

 

[giorgigio]

There is a link to a thread in the FAQs in the stickies showing sump removal and pick up cleaning

<tuffty/>

Yh that my first job take sump of and clean evrythin then check all the pipes fule and boost let you know if that fix problem and is it safe 2 drive

 

[<tuffty/>]

Honestly wouldn't want to say either way on safe to drive dude... if there is plenty of oil in her and the oil light has not come on then arguably you should be ok to drive... I just wouldn't be giving the car death....

If you are at all concerned though and you have an alternative form of transport then I would park up until you have sorted the issue though

<tuffty/>

 

[giorgigio]

Honestly wouldn't want to say either way on safe to drive dude... if there is plenty of oil in her and the oil light has not come on then arguably you should be ok to drive... I just wouldn't be giving the car death....

If you are at all concerned though and you have an alternative form of transport then I would park up until you have sorted the issue though

<tuffty/>

Honestly wouldn't want to say either way on safe to drive dude... if there is plenty of oil in her and the oil light has not come on then arguably you should be ok to drive... I just wouldn't be giving the car death....

If you are at all concerned though and you have an alternative form of transport then I would park up until you have sorted the issue though

<tuffty/>[/QUO

I would of parked it up but i go work and bk that it am off next fewdays so gona have look

 

[giorgigio]

Hi i was drivin last nite car went fine so i tort ill give some and it went really well this moring same i tort yh gona give it some again went fine then went bk to **** mode again dont get it wtf can it be its fine 1 min and then gous bk **** mode again