davidmbell
Registered User
Hello, I have a 2005 (8P1) A3 2.0tdi (140) DSG S-Line and am looking for advice from you learned more experienced owners.
I only bought it in December, but since owning it, and adding a couple of thousand miles to it, I think the DMF is on its way out.
It's now done about 91,000 miles.
Here's my symptoms:
1) Rattle noise from the engine bay
A sort of strange almost chirpy metallicy rattle ocasionally, less noticable when cold, but definately there, it sounds to be coming from the gearbox side of the engine, and can be heard best by putting head near nearside wheel.
2) Wobble/Vibration in Neutral/Park
The engine also sort of "wobbles", or vibrates a bit when it's in Neutral (it's a DSG) - imagine being on a bridge and a huge lorry pull alongside, that sort of a whole-car wobble/shudder. The engine idles fine, and I see no dip/alteration in idle as if misfiring (dont' think diesels misfire do they?!) I can't really feel it in Drive/Sport/Reverse - but it might still be there? I don't leave it in D for long when stationary to be honest.
3) Poor starting
It takes a while to start, as if the battery is low, or the starter is duff. I have had the battery checked, and its fine, but I'd heard a slow start could also be the DMF. Most times I takes a while to fire up. Sometimes it'll start quite quickly, if its just been used, and I'm restarting say, but if left overnight or all day at work, it takes a good 2-3 seconds before it will start. It's a bit like the starter is a bit 'slow' and the longer it turns over the faster it gets till it fires up. Sometimes it'll almsot THUMP or bang into life - not at all pleasant. TBH it did this a bit when I first looked at it, but being a noob I'm afraid I put it down to needing a new battery and nothing more serious.
Now I'd got it booked in to somewhere to have a look today, but cancelled last minute as I wasn't sure they were a bit expensive? I'd initially asked them to quote me on doing the DMF, but since asking them to asses it, I've had other prices through.
The first place quoted : Flywheel - £295 / Bolts - £10 / Fitting - £240 / DSG Service - £150 + VAT = £834
They said they wanted to do a DSG service on the car too, saying they recommend doing it when a DMF is done.
Now it had a DSG service in 2012, when it had done 63,000 miles. Should I get it done again? Does it need it? I can't really afford it if I'm honest, but I am not sure what the DSG interval is on the earlier 8P1 DSG box. Anyone?
The other places I've had quotes from (and they're places I'd had recommend on Audi/VW forums that I've been looking at) are
£590+Vat / £708 inc Vat (without doing DSG service)!!!!! OUCH (Statller Sheffield)
£550 cash (Vast Saab Huddersfield - I'd been recommended them as being v good, and ok for VAG cars as well as Saab)
This place also said "once we remove gearbox if it requires a spigot bearing it is £30 extra for bearing" is that likely???
£520 (Vagco Doncaster) Again came on recommendation - apparently he's a VAG Master Tech?
So really, bearing in mind all of the above (sorry I do waffle....!)
1) Does it sound to you like its definately the DMF that's going? I want to be sure, before paying for it doing, that's its definately that.
2) Shoudl I ahve the DSG box serviced (last done at 63k, car now done 90k)
Finally..
3) The history shows it was last serviced (oil/filters) at 85k, in Oct 2013, and had its CAMBELT done at 53,324 - bearing in mind this mileage, when ought I be looking at getting the cambelt done again please?
Many thanks, look forward to your replies,
David
(Leeds/Bradford/Wakefield area)
I only bought it in December, but since owning it, and adding a couple of thousand miles to it, I think the DMF is on its way out.
It's now done about 91,000 miles.
Here's my symptoms:
1) Rattle noise from the engine bay
A sort of strange almost chirpy metallicy rattle ocasionally, less noticable when cold, but definately there, it sounds to be coming from the gearbox side of the engine, and can be heard best by putting head near nearside wheel.
2) Wobble/Vibration in Neutral/Park
The engine also sort of "wobbles", or vibrates a bit when it's in Neutral (it's a DSG) - imagine being on a bridge and a huge lorry pull alongside, that sort of a whole-car wobble/shudder. The engine idles fine, and I see no dip/alteration in idle as if misfiring (dont' think diesels misfire do they?!) I can't really feel it in Drive/Sport/Reverse - but it might still be there? I don't leave it in D for long when stationary to be honest.
3) Poor starting
It takes a while to start, as if the battery is low, or the starter is duff. I have had the battery checked, and its fine, but I'd heard a slow start could also be the DMF. Most times I takes a while to fire up. Sometimes it'll start quite quickly, if its just been used, and I'm restarting say, but if left overnight or all day at work, it takes a good 2-3 seconds before it will start. It's a bit like the starter is a bit 'slow' and the longer it turns over the faster it gets till it fires up. Sometimes it'll almsot THUMP or bang into life - not at all pleasant. TBH it did this a bit when I first looked at it, but being a noob I'm afraid I put it down to needing a new battery and nothing more serious.
Now I'd got it booked in to somewhere to have a look today, but cancelled last minute as I wasn't sure they were a bit expensive? I'd initially asked them to quote me on doing the DMF, but since asking them to asses it, I've had other prices through.
The first place quoted : Flywheel - £295 / Bolts - £10 / Fitting - £240 / DSG Service - £150 + VAT = £834
They said they wanted to do a DSG service on the car too, saying they recommend doing it when a DMF is done.
Now it had a DSG service in 2012, when it had done 63,000 miles. Should I get it done again? Does it need it? I can't really afford it if I'm honest, but I am not sure what the DSG interval is on the earlier 8P1 DSG box. Anyone?
The other places I've had quotes from (and they're places I'd had recommend on Audi/VW forums that I've been looking at) are
£590+Vat / £708 inc Vat (without doing DSG service)!!!!! OUCH (Statller Sheffield)
£550 cash (Vast Saab Huddersfield - I'd been recommended them as being v good, and ok for VAG cars as well as Saab)
This place also said "once we remove gearbox if it requires a spigot bearing it is £30 extra for bearing" is that likely???
£520 (Vagco Doncaster) Again came on recommendation - apparently he's a VAG Master Tech?
So really, bearing in mind all of the above (sorry I do waffle....!)
1) Does it sound to you like its definately the DMF that's going? I want to be sure, before paying for it doing, that's its definately that.
2) Shoudl I ahve the DSG box serviced (last done at 63k, car now done 90k)
Finally..
3) The history shows it was last serviced (oil/filters) at 85k, in Oct 2013, and had its CAMBELT done at 53,324 - bearing in mind this mileage, when ought I be looking at getting the cambelt done again please?
Many thanks, look forward to your replies,
David
(Leeds/Bradford/Wakefield area)
