If anyone read the thread from beginning to end they would have seen that my posts were actually directed at the African Arm of the Catholic church .
that makes it alright then...
If anyone read the thread from beginning to end they would have seen that my posts were actually directed at the African Arm of the Catholic church .
co55ie said:If anyone read the thread from beginning to end they would have seen that my posts were actually directed at the African Arm of the Catholic church .
co55ie said:1 in 3 Africans have HIV , the Catholic church knowing this still takes a hardline anti condom stance in a predominantly Catholic country and uses fear to enforce this stance if neccessary.
The heads of most other denominations are pressurising the Vatican as they believe the catholics anti condom policy is doing nothing else but to insure the epidemic spirals..
co55ie said:please read
There are approximately 1.2 to 2.4 million adults and children living with HIV in Latin America--a figure that includes the estimated 100,000 to 420,000 people who acquired the virus in 2005. AIDS-related illnesses killed between 47,000 and 76,000 people in the region in 2005.
AndyMac said:I think Co55ie just provided a very good summation in his last post. The biggest issue on this thread is that the majority of contributors can't seem to handle anyone questioning the actions of a major religious cult..
AndyMac said:"I failed to see any specific reference to the condom issue having help the spread of AIDS in Africa" .
AndyMac said:I thought he made his point perfectly first time round. The hysteria was from ignorant people skimming through what was said or even just reading the title and going off on one like a tabloid journalist, taking bits out of context to support their own twisted perspective..
co55ie said:Are you from another planet ?
The catholic ministers use fear to ensure that the uneducated comply with the catholic contraception beliefs even though the country is rife with Aids.
Using / Preying on fear is an act of terrorism
co55ie said:Isnt the catholic faith responsible for the promotion of Aids in Africa then ?
Do the ministers not use fear tactics to get the uneducated to comply ?
Isnt claiming you will goto hell and instilling fear in someone abusing your position to get what you want especially when the recipient is uneducated an act of psychological terrorism ?
AndyMac said:"Im not getting into an arguement over my interpretation of this article" I'll take that as a YES then.
Sorry has the art of reading between the lines and interpretation died all of a sudden? All I said was I got it first time round so it was clear to me. The subsequent posts he made had to be more specific because people kept saying the stats didn't add up or that parts of the African continent weren't catholic, completely disregarding the fact that with the huge numbers quoted it didn't really matter. 2 million or 20 million it's still a massive number.
AndyMac said:the data doesn't exist
the data will never exist
many african countries are uneducated with a large catholic population (why do you think they were targetted by the missionaries over 150 years ago?)
would the use of condoms help? yes
is the catholic rule on condoms making it worse? yes
I agree you can't solely blame one element in what is a huge cultural/economic/political problem, but it would seem to be an obvious step in the right direction.
Anyone think it would be a bad idea?
enda1 said:AndyMac.
I have to pull you up on this one. When a catholic priest dies their estate is governed by the same laws that everyone else is goverened by, since we live in a secular state, and if they choose to leave it to their relatives then that is who inherits it. If they choose to leave it to the church then that is their right to do as free individuals.
AndyMac said:Precisely.
Also many are urged to give up any property before taking the position and are then housed in church accomodation and the last thing they want is a grieving widow to evict.
TRS1 said:Have I joined a forum full of freaks?
AndyMac said:It's just history, stick around I might get tetchy again!
neversaydie said:The popes have been notorious for terrorizing little boys and girls bums so I would dive right in and say yeah, he is a terrorist.