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So as Audi have announced that they're no longer going to be making A3/S3's in 3 door variants, do people think the residuals of the PFL/FL 3 Door S3 8V hatches will now hold more value/make gains?

I personally think the Hatch is the best looking S3 in the range, but I am slightly bias. On the flip side, I think 5 Door Golf's look better than the 3Drs.
 
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I have to say I agree wtih you. I went for the 3 door S3 too.

When looking at the Golf R I would also have gone for 5 door.

I have no need to decide between 3 or 5 door atm but based it purely on looks.
 
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I hope they do!

I was thinking this a while back when it was announced.
 
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I hope they do!

I was thinking this a while back when it was announced.
I hope they do too. My PCP ends next year, and I've been debating whether to get rid of the car before then or not. The news of the 3DR ending production has changed my mind since I could be over the GFV if prices rise/hold, and the strong possibility of the new S3 coming out next year.
 
So as Audi have announced that they're no longer going to be making A3/S3's in 3 door variants, do people think the residuals of the PFL/FL 3 Door S3 8V hatches will now hold more value/make gains?

I personally think the Hatch is the best looking S3 in the range, but I am slightly bias. On the flip side, I think 5 Door Golf's look better than the 3Drs.

If it hadn't been for the Saloon coming out, I'd have ordered a 3 door S3. Was never really a fan of the Sportback, but the current one does look better than past Gen Sportbacks.

I doubt the 3 door will gain value, as it has less appeal than the 5 door cars. I've always bought 3 door hatches where possible, and come selling/trade-in time, a 3 door always seams to be less popular and less valued than the 4/5 door cars.

I'd also suspect the next A3 will have no 3 door option. Think the next Gen Golf might though.
 
I also doubt 3 doors will gain value, there are just too many on the road now.
Only cars that have a limited build number tend to increase in value, Cosworth Escort being a good example.
 
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I would assume not, most of the market prefers the 5dr DSG but the 3dr wasn't made in that small a numbers to warrant additional value..........it is a mass market small German hatchback after all. In my current situation I will not buy a 5dr so S/RS/FRS/CTR is off my radar once I have broken mine I will be looking at 2/3 door options (maybe a 3dr RS1 though fingers crossed).

I speak as an owner of a low optioned, manual, 3dr S3 in a flat colour..........not many of them about.
 
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I also doubt 3 doors will gain value, there are just too many on the road now.
Only cars that have a limited build number tend to increase in value, Cosworth Escort being a good example.
Particularly referring to S3 3 doors. Not sure if that's what you're referring to or you mean 3 doors in general? I barely see any 3 door S3's around, plenty of sportbacks though.
 
Particularly referring to S3 3 doors. Not sure if that's what you're referring to or you mean 3 doors in general? I barely see any 3 door S3's around, plenty of sportbacks though.

They are rarer compared to the Sportback. But don't confuse rarity for value. They are rare for a reason, as they only appealed to a small number of people. So come the time to sell, your potential buyer has to want a 3 door only. While a 5 door appeals to a wider audience.
 
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Personal views as always... Whilst a Mk2 Golf Gti is clearly a more appealing car in 3 door form, I actually think the 8V looks better and is more practical as a Sportback. With B8/B9 S5/A5 I think the reverse , The Coupe looks nicer than the Sportback (particularly B8) As wab says do not confuse rarity with value in a newish car. If I wanted 5 doors I would not buy a 3 door. If I was looking for 3 door I could be tempted with a 5 door if the deal was right.
 
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They stopped manuals recently too. The wife's manual S3 with just 6k miles may be a keeper ;)

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They stopped manuals recently too. The wife's manual S3 with just 6k miles may be a keeper ;)

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How odd, I noticed they didn't do a manual but it looks like it's been that way for at least a couple of months as when I was configuring the car I wanted in August etc I remember going for S3 and manual wasn't an option then either, wonder when that one came in. Sounds rare though haha
 
I must admit to being a fan of manual gearboxes but in recent years they are becoming rarer and Audi have pretty much stopped M6 boxes on any performance model. Saying that the Manual M6 box on my 2014 8V S3 was not the best. First and reverse were far too close together and prevented 'confident getaways' sometimes. Had 8 speed ZF Tiptronic in previous A7 BT which was good and hoping its similar in the RS4. The STronic in the RS3 has gained my approval and is both quick and smooth and suits the car,
 
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I must admit to being a fan of manual gearboxes but in recent years they are becoming rarer and Audi have pretty much stopped M6 boxes on any performance model. Saying that the Manual M6 box on my 2014 8V S3 was not the best. First and reverse were far too close together and prevented 'confident getaways' sometimes. Had 8 speed ZF Tiptronic in previous A7 BT which was good and hoping its similar in the RS4. The STronic in the RS3 has gained my approval and is both quick and smooth and suits the car,

While I agree the manual box in the S3 is not the best, it's better than what Audi manual used to be. The B5 S4 had such a long throw it was shocking. Yet the manual gearbox in the B7 RS4 was brilliant. The manual gearbox in that car help made it be such a good car. And yes I regularly drove one.

I can see why manufacturers of really really fast car don't offer a manual anymore, as cars are probably far too quick for a manual to be practical (for most), but Porsche is starting to go back to the manual with the GT3.

Personal opinion of course, but an auto in anything other than a supercar, is super boring. Yes it can get to 60 0.2 seconds faster than the manual car can, and yes it's great in towns and cities. And the Auto allows manufacturers to conjure up fake mpg figures that sell cars too.

Yet the Auto adds weight to the car, and makes driving, well, just boring. Don't get me wrong, in the right car (SUV or luxury barge) I think they suit the car better than a manual would. But for cars like the S3, RS3, the interaction a manual gives you makes driving rewarding. Better still when you get on the perfect twisty road with no traffic. You drive the car, rather than is half driving you. Yes flappy paddles are fun, some would say, but again, they're boring unless in a supercar. 90% of the people who buy a DSG car with paddles will probably never use them. Same as the manual mode on the gear selector. More so in a VW Group car, as the ******* thing is the wrong way round.

I honestly think it's because people don't really care about driving so much these days. They want to get from A to B with as least effort as possible. Changing gear yourself? Can't be bothered !!

The only thing I wish was auto on cars was the indicators on round-a-bouts, as very few ******* use them either !!!!

Given the choice on any car between auto and manual, I'll always chose manual. Just a shame more cars are coming even without that choice. Like Vegans, their choice is being pushed onto others.

Sadly, my S3 will probably be the last Audi I own. I'm pretty sure the next S3 will be DSG only.

To add. Just look what happened to Renault when the made the Clio RS auto only. Sales fell dramatically, as people wanting a hot hatch, what to change gear for themselves.
 
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While I agree the manual box in the S3 is not the best, it's better than what Audi manual used to be. The B5 S4 had such a long throw it was shocking. Yet the manual gearbox in the B7 RS4 was brilliant. The manual gearbox in that car help made it be such a good car. And yes I regularly drove one.

I can see why manufacturers of really really fast car don't offer a manual anymore, as cars are probably far too quick for a manual to be practical (for most), but Porsche is starting to go back to the manual with the GT3.

Personal opinion of course, but an auto in anything other than a supercar, is super boring. Yes it can get to 60 0.2 seconds faster than the manual car can, and yes it's great in towns and cities. And the Auto allows manufacturers to conjure up fake mpg figures that sell cars too.

Yet the Auto adds weight to the car, and makes driving, well, just boring. Don't get me wrong, in the right car (SUV or luxury barge) I think they suit the car better than a manual would. But for cars like the S3, RS3, the interaction a manual gives you makes driving rewarding. Better still when you get on the perfect twisty road with no traffic. You drive the car, rather than is half driving you. Yes flappy paddles are fun, some would say, but again, they're boring unless in a supercar. 90% of the people who buy a DSG car with paddles will probably never use them. Same as the manual mode on the gear selector. More so in a VW Group car, as the f***ing thing is the wrong way round.

I honestly think it's because people don't really care about driving so much these days. They want to get from A to B with as least effort as possible. Changing gear yourself? Can't be bothered !!

The only thing I wish was auto on cars was the indicators on round-a-bouts, as very few F**ers use them either !!!!

Given the choice on any car between auto and manual, I'll always chose manual. Just a shame more cars are coming even without that choice. Like Vegans, their choice is being pushed onto others.

Sadly, my S3 will probably be the last Audi I own. I'm pretty sure the next S3 will be DSG only.

To add. Just look what happened to Renault when the made the Clio RS auto only. Sales fell dramatically, as people wanting a hot hatch, what to change gear for themselves.

I agree in the main, just not sure about the Vegan comment, not a huge Startrek fan so it may have gone over my head!


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While I agree the manual box in the S3 is not the best, it's better than what Audi manual used to be. The B5 S4 had such a long throw it was shocking. Yet the manual gearbox in the B7 RS4 was brilliant. The manual gearbox in that car help made it be such a good car. And yes I regularly drove one.

I can see why manufacturers of really really fast car don't offer a manual anymore, as cars are probably far too quick for a manual to be practical (for most), but Porsche is starting to go back to the manual with the GT3.

Personal opinion of course, but an auto in anything other than a supercar, is super boring. Yes it can get to 60 0.2 seconds faster than the manual car can, and yes it's great in towns and cities. And the Auto allows manufacturers to conjure up fake mpg figures that sell cars too.

Yet the Auto adds weight to the car, and makes driving, well, just boring. Don't get me wrong, in the right car (SUV or luxury barge) I think they suit the car better than a manual would. But for cars like the S3, RS3, the interaction a manual gives you makes driving rewarding. Better still when you get on the perfect twisty road with no traffic. You drive the car, rather than is half driving you. Yes flappy paddles are fun, some would say, but again, they're boring unless in a supercar. 90% of the people who buy a DSG car with paddles will probably never use them. Same as the manual mode on the gear selector. More so in a VW Group car, as the f***ing thing is the wrong way round.

I honestly think it's because people don't really care about driving so much these days. They want to get from A to B with as least effort as possible. Changing gear yourself? Can't be bothered !!

The only thing I wish was auto on cars was the indicators on round-a-bouts, as very few F**ers use them either !!!!

Given the choice on any car between auto and manual, I'll always chose manual. Just a shame more cars are coming even without that choice. Like Vegans, their choice is being pushed onto others.

Sadly, my S3 will probably be the last Audi I own. I'm pretty sure the next S3 will be DSG only.

To add. Just look what happened to Renault when the made the Clio RS auto only. Sales fell dramatically, as people wanting a hot hatch, what to change gear for themselves.

I doubt it's to do with people that can't be bothered to change gear, and suspect it's more to do with the fact that UK roads are now so congested, with such long queues and delays that one's mostly stuck in traffic and manual no longer makes any sense for many.
 
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Driving through Bristol on a daily basis means auto is a necessity for me, too many rugby injuries mean my knees can’t hack a clutch.

A manual is definitely more involving but these new s tronic boxes are brilliant.
 
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Driving through Bristol on a daily basis means auto is a necessity for me, too many rugby injuries mean my knees can’t hack a clutch.

A manual is definitely more involving but these new s tronic boxes are brilliant.

I know what you mean about Bristol traffic! Ridiculous, what we need is a decent joined up public transport train or tram system for the 'greater Bristol area'.


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5 doors are gay and now i can never have a new 3 door s3 again ill be keeping my current facelift till death do us part:whip:
 
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While I agree the manual box in the S3 is not the best, it's better than what Audi manual used to be. The B5 S4 had such a long throw it was shocking. Yet the manual gearbox in the B7 RS4 was brilliant. The manual gearbox in that car help made it be such a good car. And yes I regularly drove one.

I can see why manufacturers of really really fast car don't offer a manual anymore, as cars are probably far too quick for a manual to be practical (for most), but Porsche is starting to go back to the manual with the GT3.

Personal opinion of course, but an auto in anything other than a supercar, is super boring. Yes it can get to 60 0.2 seconds faster than the manual car can, and yes it's great in towns and cities. And the Auto allows manufacturers to conjure up fake mpg figures that sell cars too.

Yet the Auto adds weight to the car, and makes driving, well, just boring. Don't get me wrong, in the right car (SUV or luxury barge) I think they suit the car better than a manual would. But for cars like the S3, RS3, the interaction a manual gives you makes driving rewarding. Better still when you get on the perfect twisty road with no traffic. You drive the car, rather than is half driving you. Yes flappy paddles are fun, some would say, but again, they're boring unless in a supercar. 90% of the people who buy a DSG car with paddles will probably never use them. Same as the manual mode on the gear selector. More so in a VW Group car, as the f***ing thing is the wrong way round.

I honestly think it's because people don't really care about driving so much these days. They want to get from A to B with as least effort as possible. Changing gear yourself? Can't be bothered !!

The only thing I wish was auto on cars was the indicators on round-a-bouts, as very few F**ers use them either !!!!

Given the choice on any car between auto and manual, I'll always chose manual. Just a shame more cars are coming even without that choice. Like Vegans, their choice is being pushed onto others.

Sadly, my S3 will probably be the last Audi I own. I'm pretty sure the next S3 will be DSG only.

To add. Just look what happened to Renault when the made the Clio RS auto only. Sales fell dramatically, as people wanting a hot hatch, what to change gear for themselves.

If I could of been bothered to write that much I'd of said the same.
 
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I know what you mean about Bristol traffic! Ridiculous, what we need is a decent joined up public transport train or tram system for the 'greater Bristol area'.


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I commute from Cheltenham 4 times a week, I now leave at 5:30 just to beat the traffic and get some work done.
 
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After coming out of an S1 to my new S3 dsg recently I have to say it’s much more civilised in the Brummie traffic jams however can appreciate the fact it possibly might be less engaging when wanting to get all James Hunt.
It’s my first ever automatic car so time will tell to see if I have made the right decision.
 
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I had a 3 door and I found the seats a bit more rattly and it was tricky for anyone less agile to get in the back

They are a little bit quicker as they are lighter, thats why I bought my first one,

An S3 8p with S tronic it was a seriously quick car for me, its no longer around someone totalled a few owners down the line after me.
 
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do people think the residuals of the PFL/FL 3 Door S3 8V hatches will now hold more value/make gains?
Optimistically - yes
Realistically - no

As always, just my opinion of course ... :hi:
 
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In a word... no. The S3, although a nice car is not one of those 'cult' cars that in years to come will be sought after. It has never set the motoring press a light and although we deem it to be a fantastic car, the 'petrol head' world knows that it is not the last word in driver engagement or excitement and those are the sort of cars which will demand a higher value in years to come as numbers start thinning. They'll just end up like a 2006 100k miled S3 looks like now...

There are very few cars which I think will be held in high esteem in a few years... Mk 2 Focus RS for example.
 
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While I agree the manual box in the S3 is not the best, it's better than what Audi manual used to be. The B5 S4 had such a long throw it was shocking. Yet the manual gearbox in the B7 RS4 was brilliant. The manual gearbox in that car help made it be such a good car. And yes I regularly drove one.

I can see why manufacturers of really really fast car don't offer a manual anymore, as cars are probably far too quick for a manual to be practical (for most), but Porsche is starting to go back to the manual with the GT3.

Personal opinion of course, but an auto in anything other than a supercar, is super boring. Yes it can get to 60 0.2 seconds faster than the manual car can, and yes it's great in towns and cities. And the Auto allows manufacturers to conjure up fake mpg figures that sell cars too.

Yet the Auto adds weight to the car, and makes driving, well, just boring. Don't get me wrong, in the right car (SUV or luxury barge) I think they suit the car better than a manual would. But for cars like the S3, RS3, the interaction a manual gives you makes driving rewarding. Better still when you get on the perfect twisty road with no traffic. You drive the car, rather than is half driving you. Yes flappy paddles are fun, some would say, but again, they're boring unless in a supercar. 90% of the people who buy a DSG car with paddles will probably never use them. Same as the manual mode on the gear selector. More so in a VW Group car, as the ******* thing is the wrong way round.

I honestly think it's because people don't really care about driving so much these days. They want to get from A to B with as least effort as possible. Changing gear yourself? Can't be bothered !!

The only thing I wish was auto on cars was the indicators on round-a-bouts, as very few ******* use them either !!!!


Given the choice on any car between auto and manual, I'll always chose manual. Just a shame more cars are coming even without that choice. Like Vegans, their choice is being pushed onto others.

Sadly, my S3 will probably be the last Audi I own. I'm pretty sure the next S3 will be DSG only.

To add. Just look what happened to Renault when the made the Clio RS auto only. Sales fell dramatically, as people wanting a hot hatch, what to change gear for themselves.

You're right - The S3 is S-tronic only now - I've always had manuals and was disappointed that they'd stopped it but the demand is low as is the same for 3 doors
 
In a word... no. The S3, although a nice car is not one of those 'cult' cars that in years to come will be sought after. It has never set the motoring press a light and although we deem it to be a fantastic car, the 'petrol head' world knows that it is not the last word in driver engagement or excitement and those are the sort of cars which will demand a higher value in years to come as numbers start thinning. They'll just end up like a 2006 100k miled S3 looks like now...

There are very few cars which I think will be held in high esteem in a few years... Mk 2 Focus RS for example.

Harsh words

A good condition low mileage s3 aged 20 years old will be worth a decent amount dont worry
Classic Fords have a following due to the fact that there arent any left because most of them rusted
Mk2 Focus RS appeals to a niche audience along with the other Fords (Think Essex) they are a trophy car in that group.
People get excited about cars they remember that maybe they owned or couldnt afford at the time and get a second chance to relive their youth. In the last ten years theres been a rise in classic/modern classic car market along with interest rates on savings being at an all time low and no capital gains tax on profits on cars being sold privately so people have ploughed their money and time in to an enjoyable hobby with the possible chance of a decent return or perhaps just helping to pay its way, not a cheap hobby. Perhaps the bubble will burst or has already.
 
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Harsh words

A good condition low mileage s3 aged 20 years old will be worth a decent amount dont worry
Classic Fords have a following due to the fact that there arent any left because most of them rusted
Mk2 Focus RS appeals to a niche audience along with the other Fords (Think Essex) they are a trophy car in that group.
People get excited about cars they remember that maybe they owned or couldnt afford at the time and get a second chance to relive their youth. In the last ten years theres been a rise in classic/modern classic car market along with interest rates on savings being at an all time low and no capital gains tax on profits on cars being sold privately so people have ploughed their money and time in to an enjoyable hobby with the possible chance of a decent return or perhaps just helping to pay its way, not a cheap hobby. Perhaps the bubble will burst or has already.

Maybe harsh, not intentionally mean't to come across that way... but the truth as I see it. I just can't really think of any 'S' Audi which reaches that sort of following. The RS models, original TT, first gen V8 R8 with manual box and obviously the Quattro itself will gather some momentum or have already in my opinion but honestly don't see anything else obvious. Classic Fords are glorious things and it sounds like a lovely hobby to have if you've got the income to invest it in.

However, back to what the OP said. I cannot see the 3-door retaining anymore value than other variants of the S3. They're too plentiful and unfortunately, only appeal to a select few (which is why they've stopped making it I'd imagine). I suppose the saloon 'may' command a slight premium, but people will be more interested in spec, mileage etc than whether its a hatch or sportback I reckon.
 
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Maybe harsh, not intentionally mean't to come across that way... but the truth as I see it. I just can't really think of any 'S' Audi which reaches that sort of following. The RS models, original TT, first gen V8 R8 with manual box and obviously the Quattro itself will gather some momentum or have already in my opinion but honestly don't see anything else obvious. Classic Fords are glorious things and it sounds like a lovely hobby to have if you've got the income to invest it in.

However, back to what the OP said. I cannot see the 3-door retaining anymore value than other variants of the S3. They're too plentiful and unfortunately, only appeal to a select few (which is why they've stopped making it I'd imagine). I suppose the saloon 'may' command a slight premium, but people will be more interested in spec, mileage etc than whether its a hatch or sportback I reckon.

Mark how could you, going against your S3 buddies...
 
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After coming out of an S1 to my new S3 dsg recently I have to say it’s much more civilised in the Brummie traffic jams however can appreciate the fact it possibly might be less engaging when wanting to get all James Hunt.
It’s my first ever automatic car so time will tell to see if I have made the right decision.
You're spot on there. I actually had an S1 as a courtesy car for the day and thoroughly enjoyed it. It felt like how the old Mini Coopers used to be if you can resonate with that. Very nimble and agile, and it wasn't S-Tronic so I had good fun with the manual. I hated the interior however, and felt that needed a complete refresh, and probably doesn't justify the price of one. S3 is essentially a good all rounder, which is why I chose it.
 
In a word... no. The S3, although a nice car is not one of those 'cult' cars that in years to come will be sought after. It has never set the motoring press a light and although we deem it to be a fantastic car, the 'petrol head' world knows that it is not the last word in driver engagement or excitement and those are the sort of cars which will demand a higher value in years to come as numbers start thinning. They'll just end up like a 2006 100k miled S3 looks like now...

There are very few cars which I think will be held in high esteem in a few years... Mk 2 Focus RS for example.
I'm kind of glad that it doesn't feature much in automotive magazines/Top Gear etc. I feel that would do the opposite and then devalue them to the point that BMW 1 Series and Golf R's have become.

Considering there are 8L S3's for £3-5K in mediocre condition 20 years on, I think they're pretty good on residuals.
 
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This old chestnut . With the demise of the 3 door, l think the actual styling is one of the reasons why it ddidn' sell besides the ones posted above, the Sportback is better looking the 3 door ain't very well proportioned just my opinion of course, Audi messed up Simples
 
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This old chestnut . With the demise of the 3 door, l think the actual styling is one of the reasons why it ddidn' sell besides the ones posted above, the Sportback is better looking the 3 door ain't very well proportioned just my opinion of course, Audi messed up Simples

Always preferred 3 doors, had the R32 for 9 years and that was a 3 door. When it came to getting the S3 I preferred the look of the Sportback (that and it's more practical for me)

All personal preference of course.
 
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It would be interesting to know how many of each 3 and 5 door there are on the roads
 
It would also be interesting to know the number of manual vs S-tronic.

After a few years of only being able to order 5 door autos, surely this will make 3 door manuals more desirable?
 
It would also be interesting to know the number of manual vs S-tronic.

After a few years of only being able to order 5 door autos, surely this will make 3 door manuals more desirable?
Autotrader.co.uk is full of them
 
This old chestnut . With the demise of the 3 door, l think the actual styling is one of the reasons why it ddidn' sell besides the ones posted above, the Sportback is better looking the 3 door ain't very well proportioned just my opinion of course, Audi messed up Simples
as well as better looking...Sportback has them sweet, sweet Roof rails
 
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Autotrader.co.uk is full of them

:grinning: Just been on there too!

37 manuals vs 319 'Automatic'

2 doors - 33 :flushed:
3 doors - 116
4 doors - 78
5 doors - 167

(BTW There should be a law against owning a car if you don't even know how many doors it has!)
 
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