2018 S3 front assist?

[Dave_808]

Does anyone know if the most recent S3’s (post wltp if it matters) are fitted with the front assist braking system? The one that senses something in the road and slams on the anchors?

Can’t say I’ve noticed the radar on the front and I’m away from the car so can’t check.

 

[loftylad]

Pretty sure that they're not.
I hope not because they're a downright nuisance - bordering on dangerous.

 

[Adam14]

Isn't this an optional extra you can spec? As part of the various "assistance" packages. Don't believe it would be a standard feature on the S3.

 

[wab172uk]

Will no doubt be standard on the all new A3, as it currently is on new Golfs. Hateful system.

 

[oli356]

Will no doubt be standard on the all new A3, as it currently is on new Golfs. Hateful system.

Yup..

Can't say I'm a fan of it myself. It's come in handy once or twice, well it beeped and I did actually need to brake hard.. But it didn't brake for me.

On every other occasion it just beeps and does weird stuff for no reason...!

 

[Ormesome]

Standard on the Q2, would have thought it would be on FL A3, although its an older model so maybe not. It's not that great. I'm sure when it's needed then it will be amazing but it does go a bit mental something, it hasn't slammed on the brakes but it has warned me of objects that are just in the way like when I overtake etc...

 

[cuke2u]

I have it on my A4, life and car saver. More cars need to have these systems and will be mandatory by 2021. They will never second guess human stupidy but at least the risk of being rear ended is reduced....

 

[Ron240]

Autonomous braking system.....most manufacturers have it and have their own name for it. Ford for example call it Active City Stop.
At anything other than very low speeds (less than 30mph) it will not prevent a collision but it will reduce the impact.
Back in 2012 there was talk of insurance companies reducing premiums in the future for vehicles fitted with this technology, but this has never happened.
For the most part it is an optional feature, but it is only a matter of time before it becomes standard for all.
It is absolutely a good thing.

 

[wab172uk]

Autonomous braking system.....most manufacturers have it and have their own name for it. Ford for example call it Active City Stop.
At anything other than very low speeds (less than 30mph) it will not prevent a collision but it will reduce the impact.
Back in 2012 there was talk of insurance companies reducing premiums in the future for vehicles fitted with this technology, but this has never happened.
For the most part it is an optional feature, but it is only a matter of time before it becomes standard for all.
It is absolutely a good thing.

It did actually. The insurance of Golfs are lower than it's competitors, due to have this system fitted.

 

[Ron240]

It did actually. The insurance of Golfs are lower than it's competitors, due to have this system fitted.

I'll take your word for it....but this is good.
Being a standard feature it will be built into their NCAP rating and go hand in hand with their recommended insurance group.
There should also be a discount for cars that have this as a factory fitted option, but this will not be the case. Having said that even if there was a discount it would probably be relatively small and would never even get noticed due to the potentially vast difference in premiums that insurance companies charge.

 

[Ormesome]

It did actually. The insurance of Golfs are lower than it's competitors, due to have this system fitted.

Have you been watching top gear!?!! Personally, i disagree that it should lower your premiums. Premiums should be related to the driver and the car. You don't get a discount for the parking systems or how many airbags you have so why would you for a braking feature. I do however agree it should be standard across all cars as it is an excellent safety feature. Safety features should not be options or manufacturer dependant, even patentable. They should be open source and be implemented by law as soon as they are available.

 

[Ron240]

Safety features should not be options or manufacturer dependant, even patentable. They should be open source and be implemented by law as soon as they are available.

I agree, because there has always been a relatively small uptake for safety options on cars when customers have to pay for them, with the majority preferring to pay for comfort and technology options.
I remember back to the late 80's I think it was.....Ford had ABS as standard on the Granada then offered it as a cost option for the very first time on the Escort, but despite its obvious safety benefits it was not a popular option.
Nowadays ABS is required by law on all new cars in the UK/EU, and has been for some time.

 

[wab172uk]

Have you been watching top gear!?!! Personally, i disagree that it should lower your premiums. Premiums should be related to the driver and the car. You don't get a discount for the parking systems or how many airbags you have so why would you for a braking feature. I do however agree it should be standard across all cars as it is an excellent safety feature. Safety features should not be options or manufacturer dependant, even patentable. They should be open source and be implemented by law as soon as they are available.

Not seen it on Top Gear (or that I can remember) but it was highlighted when the MK7 came out. Insurance groups lower than the MK6 due to this standard feature.

As for being standard on all cars? God I hope not. In town driving, it constantly beeps and hits the brakes when you're rolling (safely) behind another car in traffic.

If you're going over a round about, and someone shoots out in front of you. You as the driver can judge speed / distance and either carry on as you were, lift, or brake. As a driver you can judge that you'll miss the car that's just pulled out. These systems just detect an object and brake when you don't expect it to. And if you're turning at the same time, it can upset the balance of the car.

TBH, if you need one of these systems to avoid a crash, you shouldn't be driving. Same as if you can't parallel park, and need the car to do it for you, then you shouldn't really be driving either. Driving standards are getting worse. These systems that take the driver out of the equation just perpetuates bad driving.

If people think the car will brake for itself, they'll let the car brake for itself (as people are becoming more and more lazy). And when it doesn't ........ BANG !!

 

[Ormesome]

If people think the car will brake for itself, they'll let the car brake for itself (as people are becoming lazier). And when it doesn't ........ BANG !!

Agree with you mostly. Most systems are taking the driving awareness away so soon most crashes will happen because of not being aware and thinking that the safety system will do it for you. For example, no beep or bong heard so i pull out and overtake instead of looking in my blind spot. However, i feel the only one that cant be put in the same category is the Audi Pre-sense (the system we are talking about in this thread). This system (when it works) will serve its purpose. It will brake quicker than you or I when someone in front has slammed on the breaks in an emergency, avoiding a crash. It cant be seen as a convenience system as then that would be the Adaptive Cruice Control which does brake for you at most speeds and even stops you and starts you! I do agree with you that it is far from perfect. Like i said in my post before, iv had it bong at me a few times when iv been overtaking or avoiding a parked car, its never done anything else though so until then i am keeping it switched on.....

If anyone is interested then here is a link to all assistance systems offered by Audi:

https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/en/technology-lexicon-7180/driver-assistance-systems-7184

 

[Ron240]

Both of the previous 2 posts make good points.
I am not a fan of overly intrusive systems that take control away from the driver, and I count the side sensing systems as one of these.
The absolute last chance emergency braking systems are definitely a good thing....they can react quicker and brake harder than the majority of drivers. All it takes for potential disaster is a momentary lapse in concentration, and this is when these systems will take over. Probably only top level racing drivers could compete with them, which is something we will never be as much as we would like to think we are.

 

[dannyboy1985]

I actually like it. Depending in how you drive I can see why some hate it. Also, you should be able to switch it off. But twice now in stop start motorway traffic when I have gone to slam on it’s caught it just a half a second before me. I would have had time to stop but if I had been doing something or checking the mirror It might have been too late. So a handy bit of kit!

 

[Ormesome]

Also, you should be able to switch it off.!

You can turn it off! It’s in the settings menu of the MMI.

 

[dannyboy1985]

You can turn it off! It’s in the settings menu of the MMI.

Yes, thankyou just seen the menu!