mark i think durham will be the place we meet if it happens , just need to get a few more people to take an interest then we can sort something , i was thinking in about three weeks time on a saturday night ,as that is probably the best time for most people with work and that . also hopefully one of the lads is from durham so that we have someone who actually knows the best place to meet as i havent got a clue how to get round durham lol