I can kind of understand. I much prefer it to have an amazing design and be packed with goodies. I'm not a performance enthusiast, I'd like the car to get me from A to B rather well but I'm not going to go insane over it.Not caring how a car drives is a strange one!
Not caring how a car drives is a strange one!
Not caring how a car drives is a strange one!
Think most people would acknowledge that Audi's aren't the last word in handling. A few slip through the crack, which is frustrating, as you'd think if VW & SEAT can make there cars handle better, then why can't Audi?
Most car's I've bought over the years have been either the best in class, or comparable with. Yet, I always hankered after an S3. Don't know why, as I knew there would be better cars to drive for the same money or cheaper. Think the allure of Audi is great (no so much now) external design, great interior design and build, with the security of AWD on it's performance model.
The most comparable car I've owned to the S3, is my old 2005 Subaru Impreza STI PPP. Both car are Saloon, have AWD and about 300bhp. But they couldn't be more different. Where the Scooby was cheap scratchy plastic, and rubbish sound system, the S3 has a well made stylish dashboard, and with B&O, has a great sound system. The Scooby seats were better to sit in, than the S3's SS seats though.
But where the Scooby would out handle the S3 every day of the week, it could become tiring on long journeys, as it has stupidly short gear ratio's. The S3 is such a great all rounder. Quick when you want it to be, but relaxing when you wanted that too. Makes motorway journeys relaxing, where the Subaru would get annoying for passengers.
Although both cars had 300bhp, the S3 engine is in a different league to the Flat 4. While the Subaru has character, the S3 engine in comparison is quite dull but pulls so much stronger.
Given the choice of both cars, I'd choose the S3 every day. While I miss the fun factor of the Subaru, the fact the S3 doesn't handle quite as well, really doesn't bother me.
This S3 is the longest I've owned a car. I just can't think of any other car on sale today that can do everything the S3 does, that I need it to do.
I’m very similar to you, I know for less or similar I could have got say a Focus ST3, Focus RS, Golf R etc but I always had an itch for an S3 as just seemed to be more of a complete package.
Other than the latest TT and R8 designs I really don’t like where Audi are going. A1 looked ok at 1st but the interior is so random, new A7 looks tacky with its shiny screens and horrible wheel designs.
Other than getting back into a TT I can’t see myself choosing a new Audi at the moment, really struggle with the new designs.
I’m not sure who Audi are trying to target with the new A7 / A8 touch screen based interiors. They are a pain to operate whilst driving I’ve got a friend who’s got one of the new Golf R’s and he much prefers the infotainment setup in my S3. Think this is where Audi has dropped the ball compared to BMW and Merc who have given the option of touch screens but retained the scroll wheel for those who still want to use it.I'm in the same boat as you at the moment minus owning an S3, just an A3 for me. But I'm not into all of the touch screen nonsense, much prefer having the scroll wheel in the centre console, just seems like it would be much safer that having to look down at the screens. I really hope they deliver on the A3, I personally think it's the most important car in their range, they've always done it well so here's hoping they can continue the trend and not just up-size the A1.
My S3 is the longest I’ve owned a car for too, and I’m in the same boat struggling to think of something to replace it with. To be honest I had been considering a FL RS3 in the past couple of months but the prices are seriously inflated at the moment and I’m not sure whether I’d be kicking myself after the initial honeymoon period about spending an extra 10k ish for some extra exhaust + engine noise, plus the additional running costs.Think most people would acknowledge that Audi's aren't the last word in handling. A few slip through the crack, which is frustrating, as you'd think if VW & SEAT can make there cars handle better, then why can't Audi?
Most car's I've bought over the years have been either the best in class, or comparable with. Yet, I always hankered after an S3. Don't know why, as I knew there would be better cars to drive for the same money or cheaper. Think the allure of Audi is great (no so much now) external design, great interior design and build, with the security of AWD on it's performance model.
The most comparable car I've owned to the S3, is my old 2005 Subaru Impreza STI PPP. Both car are Saloon, have AWD and about 300bhp. But they couldn't be more different. Where the Scooby was cheap scratchy plastic, and rubbish sound system, the S3 has a well made stylish dashboard, and with B&O, has a great sound system. The Scooby seats were better to sit in, than the S3's SS seats though.
But where the Scooby would out handle the S3 every day of the week, it could become tiring on long journeys, as it has stupidly short gear ratio's. The S3 is such a great all rounder. Quick when you want it to be, but relaxing when you wanted that too. Makes motorway journeys relaxing, where the Subaru would get annoying for passengers.
Although both cars had 300bhp, the S3 engine is in a different league to the Flat 4. While the Subaru has character, the S3 engine in comparison is quite dull but pulls so much stronger.
Given the choice of both cars, I'd choose the S3 every day. While I miss the fun factor of the Subaru, the fact the S3 doesn't handle quite as well, really doesn't bother me.
This S3 is the longest I've owned a car. I just can't think of any other car on sale today that can do everything the S3 does, that I need it to do.
I'm in the same boat. I've went for the modest 1.5 tfsi sportback (Black Edition) with stronic and a few other options. Coming from a Golf GTI i know and have resigned myself to the fact that the performance of the 1.5 tfsi is nowhere near that of the GTI or even the classic GTI styling, but comfort is important to me as I cover approx 40k miles per year and the thought of spending another 130k miles in another Golf (regardless of model) just doesn't do it for me.
With that in mind i'm really looking forward to the A3 interior, stronic transmission, B&O sound system and 5 doors (this will be my first 5 door hatch in 17 years) and the MMI. Trust me, touch screen can be a real pain and quite dangerous at times. I really do hope that I dont miss the touchscreen and although it's going to break my heart leaving the GTI I'm hoping I will love my A3 just as much!
Knowing Audi it will probably late 2019 before the new A3 actually hits the road. There is usually a delay in the S3 / RS3 variants getting launched though so you might be pushing it hoping for March 2020.And I’m looking at coming the other way from VW to audi!
I’ve got a mk7 gti performance pack which is ****** lovely but I’ve always wanted the s3/rs3. My pcp is up in March 2020 so need to look at ordering next September/December! Anyone know when the next A3 will be announced
The new A3 will probably be officially announced at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September 2019 with UK deliveries starting in early 2020.
Just saying but I think Audi might just do themselves wrong with the new A3. The current FL model is in my opinion spot on. At the most id add better wheel options and perhaps some subtle body styling options . Maybe some different tech inside, perhaps audio upgrades.
I know they need to evolve and whatnot but the current model is highly popular and the way it looks they're just going to detract from it
Shame.
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Got to say I'm with you there . I like the motorised MMI and when it annoys you , press a button and it disappears in its little slot . PerfectWell I hate what they’ve done with the A1 I agree the 8v is lovely I even like the motorised screen!
It's been said a few times in this thread already but hell ........ Someone at Audi HQ lost the friggin plot on pricing. SeriouslyI do agree in a lot of ways, A3 is subtle and classy.
I'm quite intrigued by new A1 but prices look a total joke. Could be tempted by a great deal on an A3 when changing next year.
It's been said a few times in this thread already but hell ........ Someone at Audi HQ lost the friggin plot on pricing. Seriously
I'm sure I'm not speaking just for myself , we all head to Audi because as a brand it exudes quality . Craftsmanship. Reliability. You get the point , yes a premium brand but we're not mugs blinded by logos and snazzy brand names.
The prices they are asking for an A1 are nothing short of insulting Same could be said for the A3 . I ran the configurator the other weekend. By the time I specced it to a sensible / decent point I'd gone from around 25k base price to 36k ........ Base model S3 price ......wtf !
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To be honest, the way they're pricing model works is BS .....
Specced A3 =Base S3 - circa 100 ps
Specced S3 = Base RS3........again -circa 100ps
I appreciate they're a business and need to make profit but ****** hell.
We're looking to trade up by 2019/ 2020, I'll be looking for an approved used 2018 FL S3 . Beyond that , I may look elsewhere . Looking at the items they are cutting back on and still hiking prices .........
For example door cill inlays ...... Extra cost . That's just one example , anyone that has run a configurator will get the drift ........ Extras .... Extras
Come on Audi .....
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Completely agree with what's being said above
I've just went from a Golf GTI to a 1.5 tfsi black edition with stonic with comfort and sound pack and advanced key which came in at £33k! What ****** me off is the options they charge for such as £250 for a folding rear bench which i thought was standard. The fully loaded GTI was £30k.
I was still about £2k short of options i would have liked but couldn't justify a £35k A3 1.5 tfsi
I do however love the current fl model and shape and looks like ill be glad to have this one other than any new A3 next year.
Do you prefer the A3 over the GTI? A 2nd hand GTI Performance is on my list to replace the S3.
Same here. Looking at a mk7.5 GTI Performance Pack to replace my 1.4 PFL A3 S-Line. From test drives I’ve had it all feels very similar just quicker and much sharper steering and no flat spot when you accelerate which you get on the S-Tronic A3 (unless you drop it into sport mode). Interior seems a notch down in terms of plastics quality but I prefer the style of the Golf dash over the A3 - never been a fan of round air vents! Fully loaded GTI on PCP @ around £30k or half the spec on an A3 for £34
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Do you prefer the A3 over the GTI? A 2nd hand GTI Performance is on my list to replace the S3.
Oh and virtual dash is standard on the GTI. None of this £1500 for the Tech Pack shenanigans.
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And... Jeremy Clarkson owns a GTI PP as his daily driver. Need I say more? If he likes them, they must be good.
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VC is hugely overpriced and when it goes wrong , then what . A guy on here drive home with no rev counter or Speedo a few days back . Luckily for him it was working again the next morning .Yeah, i forgot about that one. It wouldn't be half as bad if Audi allowed you to spec the virtual dash at £450 but having to fork out £1500 for the tech pack is not on!
I've only had the A3 one day so hard to tell. Performance wise there is no comparison although the 1.5 pick up was surprising quick and the GTI felt a lot faster than its 230bhp....the limited slip diff which you get on the performance pack is incredible and more than a match for my old Megane RS 275 CUP so would highly recommend you get the performance pack.
I LOVE the interior and exterior of my A3 and the B&O system.... Wow!
Haha well if Jezza has one then I’m sold.And... Jeremy Clarkson owns a GTI PP as his daily driver. Need I say more? If he likes them, they must be good.
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