Agree very over priced but I’ve had it in a TT and my S3 and couldn’t imagine specking an Audi without one now, really sets the cabin off.
Looking at the latest models they’ll be the norm now.
Next model A3
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Looking at the latest models they’ll be the norm now.
Wife has a Mini JCW bought new in May that cost less! I know what I would rather have. 2.0 twin scroll turbo vs 1.0 A1....no competition
Dang right there @q5manWife has a Mini JCW bought new in May that cost less! I know what I would rather have. 2.0 twin scroll turbo vs 1.0 A1....no competition
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VC and privacy glass are the two must have options for me.
I know a lot of people dont like how cars are having digital screens replacing the normal dials now days, but for me it's one of the very few things I actually like about modern cars.
I know a lot of people dont like how cars are having digital screens replacing the normal dials now days, but for me it's one of the very few things I actually like about modern cars.
Because no one buys there cars anymore. All people care about is how much a month.
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When you buy a house, do you really care if it’s £325,000 or £350,000? Probably not, as you look at how much it costs you per month. Back in the day, a new car was about £10k but with decent cars these days hovering around £30k PCP makes a lot of sense if buying new.
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Totally agree. I prefer to buy my cars outright, but due to the unprecedented rise in RRP on cars these days, I'll be downgrading on my next car. I can justify say £20k outright for a Fiesta ST. But can't justify £45k for the next S3. Or £20k for 3 years PCP then just handing the car back.
It had become a chicken and egg thing. If I was in my twenties or Thirties, I'd be all for PCP, as it would get me in cars my wages wouldn't allow.
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I could also buy one outright but chose not to deplete my savings.
With regards to ‘handing the car back after three years’, why is this a problem if (a) you’ve only paid half the RRP in those three years compared to an outright purchase and (b) you would buy another car after three years anyway?
Example:
New A3, £6k deposit, £300 x 36. Total paid over three years = £16,800 on a car that would have cost £26,000 outright.
Then you decide to have another after three years. You pay another £6k deposit then £300 x 36 once more.
Over six years you’ve had two brand new cars, not depleted your savings and have spent a total of £33,600.
The guy who bought new & outright, kept it for three years then bought another outright has spent £52,000 over the same 6 year period. I know he’d get money back on both by selling on or trading in but Mr PCP man still has a massive stash of cash in his savings account, whereas Mr Outright has a sizeable dent in his.
Horses for courses.
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it's all about monthly payments now for the general public. that and the drop in the value of the pound have both led to a rise in RRP. RRP isn't even listed in most adverts now, it's all monthly.
I bought my S3 nearly new with a bank loan. it was fully loaded with 8k miles for 27k two years back. just looked on auto trader and similar cars seem to be on for 21k, so realistically i reckon i could get 19 for it. Very happy with that, but i'll probably keep it for two more years and end up with 15k back. Dont see the point in buying new when you can get so much more for your money nearly new.
I bought my S3 nearly new with a bank loan. it was fully loaded with 8k miles for 27k two years back. just looked on auto trader and similar cars seem to be on for 21k, so realistically i reckon i could get 19 for it. Very happy with that, but i'll probably keep it for two more years and end up with 15k back. Dont see the point in buying new when you can get so much more for your money nearly new.
Completely agree.
I purchased my first used car outright as I can't get credit yet, but my next car will definitely be on PCP solely for the reasons mentioned above. Unless you're the top 1% of the 1%, buying a new car outright baffles me.
I posted earlier that my wife was looking to change her current Polo for another Polo or an A1 She has owned several Polos in the past and also an A1. I looked on Carwow and the best offer was 14.6% discount on a Polo. We went to our local VW dealer yesterday and met with the Sales Manager who was a chap we had known from the past dealings with VW. He agreed to give the 14.6% discount, offered £9000 trade-in for the existing polo and also agreed to stick to that price even though delivery for the new Polo would not be until March 2019. So A good deal. It will mean that Jenny will be paying almost the same on a PCP as her existing 3 year old deal. VW are currently offering £1000 towards the deposit and a PCP at 4.9%. According to the Sales Manager this is the lowest figure VW have ever offered. I think the good deal is partly because dealers are finding it hard to sell cars at the moment because of the long delivery periods because of the WLTP regulations. It will be interesting to see what deals are offered on the new A3 when it is released.
The dealer also has a Golf Estate in the showroom and I think that may well be my next car, depending on what the new A3/Golf 8 are like.
The dealer also has a Golf Estate in the showroom and I think that may well be my next car, depending on what the new A3/Golf 8 are like.
Yes, I think a lot of dealers are suffering due to WLTP. But which in some ways may actually help their second hand sales.
It strike me that the manufacturers have know about the WLTP for ages and yet seam to have done nothing until the 11th hour. Audi/VW being one of the worst offenders. They must be losing a fortune in lost sales. More so the dealers who rely on a steady stream of cars going out to make their money. Poor salesmen/women who rely on commissions from new car sales too.
Maybe they were hoping to change the new law coming in?
Maybe they are just in a sulk after their own cheating caused all this?
As for discounts on the next A3? Forget it in the first 6-12 months. The cars will sell themselves as everyone will want to be in the latest A3. Same as when the next S3 then next RS3 are released.
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Don’t hold me to this statement but a Audi Dealer once told me they aren’t allowed to discount new models for at least 2 quarters
Salesman informed me its the worst 2 x periods for sales and he has never seen it so bad. He also stated they have had (unachievable) raised sales targets on the few cars that have passed WLTP.
Additionally, they have to be "conservative" with the truth, regarding orders/deliveries.
Sounds about right that.
Additionally, they have to be "conservative" with the truth, regarding orders/deliveries.
Sounds about right that.
I think the new Polo looks great, I'm looking to downsize next time and the Polo GTi is on my list!
They ain't allowed to discount new cars by the manufacture who ever that maybe, even after the first 6 months of its launch discounts is model dependent more desirable models no or little discount will be given, Audi models that have been delayed by the new emission regs there used counyerparts are flying off the forecourts
Got my Q5 with over 10% discount, and that was about a year from launch, maybe less as was end of Mar 18
I can well believe this. I've had more calls from Audi this last 6 months than ever before trying to get me to change my car & told them no thanks every time.
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Mine has been emails about the A5 - S5 range offering crazy deposit contributions.
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Not the new A3.....one of the new A1 colours....Tioman Green i believe......it's a no from me....please don't trickle 'up' to the A3!?
Like all manufacturers these days. Most of the colours are just Bland, or a shade of bland
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i can't understand it....of all the wonderful colours out there ...and a mixture thereof....who is mixing these colours and then saying hey that's a winner...and who else is rubber stamping them.....the mind boggles....fair enough don't buy that colour but they are instead of potential wonderful colours.....the choices are becoming pretty limited nowadays
Yup, me too. Had an offer of a brand new A5 Coupe S-Line 2.0tdi s-tronic for £31k, that's nearly £10k discount including the £5k contribution of course.
I also see it for what I want to blow/spend/lose each month on a car and keeping a lump sum of cash in the bank for other things/emergencies!
Using a fiesta ST 3 PP as an example: After discount you can get one for £20,309 if you buy outright, to get that money back over 3 years you'd have to save £564 per month, yes the next one would be cheaper as you'd have the cars equity to come off the price, but then you're throwing another lump sum down rather than using it for holidays etc.
Now on a PCP using the same price for the car less £1,000 deposit keeping the extra £19,309 in the bank:
Everyone has their own ideas and thoughts on keeping the cash in the bank for a rainy day and paying interest on the pcp, or paying no interest and having no cash...but realistically not many people I know have £20,000 cash sitting around anyway lol.
I like the lights ... but Audi always do cool lights.
I'm struggling to see anything positive beyond that.
That interior is just awful too.
Things are most certainly not looking good for the next A3
That is ****** hideous . Looks similar in size to the A3. Just uglier. Wonder if the A3 is going to increase in size. Just hope it doesn't look anything like that A1
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Shame it didn't look like the new S1, 
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news...s-for-2019/ss-BBPpfqH?ocid=spartandhp#image=7
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news...s-for-2019/ss-BBPpfqH?ocid=spartandhp#image=7
I am not arguing that, was just making a point that I got the discount on a model (Q5 gen2) that had been out less than a year!
It's not surprising though consifer
Ergo larger class cars are more susceptible to discounts quicker from launch A4/A5/S4/S5 etc etc
