Tyre Wear

[Carbon89]

Hi all - not the most exciting subject, I appreciate, but just wondering what level of tyre wear people have been seeing? I'm at 1 year and just over 10k miles and I'm down to 3.5mm on all four tyres. That surprised me slightly as a bit more than I was expecting (though I have been enjoying the A272), and the same on all 4 tyres whereas would have expected the fronts to be worse. I'm on the Potenzas by the way.

My old A35 somehow lasted 2 years and 20k miles on the same set of tyres and still had 2.5mm left when I got rid of it.

 

[K44WMY]

Mines came with bridgestones. Lasted me just shy of 8k miles

 

[kayemill]

I replaced the front Bridgestones after 6K due to a pothole. I've done 9K now and the rears need replacing. Got my first wheel damage yesterday as well. Doh!
Not kerbed but no idea how its happened. Time to crack out the sharpie!

 

[garethdj]

I’m on Bridgestones, just over 6200 miles (inc a track day). Haven’t taken a tread reading but they’re not down to the wear markers yet (not that I’ll leave them to get there before replacing).

Will get round to that this weekend maybe… if not it’s in for a service beginning of June so sure that’ll highlight on the audi cam.


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[Rhurs]

I've got the Bridgestones 5 on the fronts 4.5 on the rears just gone 6k

 

[monkeyhanger]

Hi all - not the most exciting subject, I appreciate, but just wondering what level of tyre wear people have been seeing? I'm at 1 year and just over 10k miles and I'm down to 3.5mm on all four tyres. That surprised me slightly as a bit more than I was expecting (though I have been enjoying the A272), and the same on all 4 tyres whereas would have expected the fronts to be worse. I'm on the Potenzas by the way.

My old A35 somehow lasted 2 years and 20k miles on the same set of tyres and still had 2.5mm left when I got rid of it.

What are you driving? My old Golf R had very slow and even tyre wear across all 4 tyres. When we sold it at 33k miles, the tyres were still at over 4mm all round. That'll be a 4WD trait, would expect the S3 to be the same. FWD with at least 150ps I would expect to do 25k miles on the fronts and 45k miles on the rears.

Not sure whether this is true of Bridgestone Potenzas, but when I had an ID3 that came with Bridgestone Turanzas, those tyres only had 5.9mm when new. Could account for what people are perceiving to be heavy wear if they thought their tyres started with a full 8mm or 7.2mm tread.

 

[8YARWY]

What are you driving? My old Golf R had very slow and even tyre wear across all 4 tyres. When we sold it at 33k miles, the tyres were still at over 4mm all round. That'll be a 4WD trait, would expect the S3 to be the same. FWD with at least 150ps I would expect to do 25k miles on the fronts and 45k miles on the rears.

Not sure whether this is true of Bridgestone Potenzas, but when I had an ID3 that came with Bridgestone Turanzas, those tyres only had 5.9mm when new. Could account for what people are perceiving to be heavy wear if they thought their tyres started with a full 8mm or 7.2mm tread.

Driving style also comes into it.

If people are launching it every chance they get or driving like lunatics then they’ll wear


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[doncarlyon]

Only done 2k miles so not sure yet.

Previous car was a Megane 300 Trophy and the Bridgestones on the front managed 5k miles.

 

[davc]

Bridgestone after 6.5k miles - 3mm front and 4mm rear

 

[Mike.46]

What are you driving? My old Golf R had very slow and even tyre wear across all 4 tyres. When we sold it at 33k miles, the tyres were still at over 4mm all round. That'll be a 4WD trait, would expect the S3 to be the same. FWD with at least 150ps I would expect to do 25k miles on the fronts and 45k miles on the rears.

Not sure whether this is true of Bridgestone Potenzas, but when I had an ID3 that came with Bridgestone Turanzas, those tyres only had 5.9mm when new. Could account for what people are perceiving to be heavy wear if they thought their tyres started with a full 8mm or 7.2mm tread.

On our Golf R I swapped the wheels front to back to get them all to wear out at the same time, I dont know how you managed to get them to wear out all at the same time and at 33K miles on a front engined four wheel drive car that spends most of its time in front wheel drive only?

 

[8YARWY]

On our Golf R I swapped the wheels front to back to get them all to wear out at the same time, I dont know how you managed to get them to wear out all at the same time and at 33K miles on a front engined four wheel drive car that spends most of its time in front wheel drive only?

Mine where pretty close to each other on Fridays health check.

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[monkeyhanger]

Bridgestone after 6.5k miles - 3mm front and 4mm rear

I would get those wheels rotated, front for back, to try to even out the tyre wear before you bin them at 1.6mm - 2mm.

 

[monkeyhanger]

On our Golf R I swapped the wheels front to back to get them all to wear out at the same time, I dont know how you managed to get them to wear out all at the same time and at 33K miles on a front engined four wheel drive car that spends most of its time in front wheel drive only?

Maybe driving style? I drove the car fairly hard to get up to speed, but have a good anticipatory style of driving - I come off the gas early and brake a little less (at the first service, I had an advisory for low front discs, which was complete ********. At the next service, they'd regrown 2mm thikness - that's what I call regenerating brakes) . I'm not one for traffic lights Grand Prix either, never used launch control, when you've got your foot down, all 4 tyres are taking the strain. I was on Michelin PSS after binning the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A at 1500 miles, maybe they wear better too, they felt a hell of a lot better on every attribute you look for in a tyre.

 

[flybynite]

I would get those wheels rotated, front for back, to try to even out the tyre wear before you bin them at 1.6mm - 2mm.

It is one of the resaons I run square set of wheels as I can rotate them to the best each time I change from winter to summers, but to be fair I never see a great difference in 6-7 months per swap.

when you've got your foot down, all 4 tyres are taking the strain.

it is not straight acceleration that will wear front tyres more it is the corners and particularly roundabouts on a front-heavy car.

 

[garethdj]

Took digital readings this morning, average across the treads:

Front drivers - 3.46
Front passenger - 2.89 (took 2 lots and averaged out, tyres are not in great shape lol).
Rear passenger - 3.24
Rear driver - 3.61

Just over 6200 and a track day (with mainly right handers, hence the excessive passenger side wear)!


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[doncarlyon]

2445 miles on mine now.

Tyres are at 4.5mm all round roughly.

 

[8YARWY]

2445 miles on mine now.

Tyres are at 4.5mm all round roughly.

Wow,


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[garethdj]

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[8YARWY]

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Double wow


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[Kevmoz]

That looks like you’ve been having some fun, but isn’t that what these things are for? What will you change them for?

 

[garethdj]

That looks like you’ve been having some fun, but isn’t that what these things are for? What will you change them for?

Indeed it was, took it along to my local tyre shop and his words ‘you’ve melted them a bit but they’re still legal, I’d get a bit longer out of them if I was you’ so thinking of doing another local track night to truly see them off lol.

It’ll either be:
PS4S
Sport Contact 7s
Eagle F1 Asym 6

Tempted to go with the latter. Michelins are the most expensive and I had some Sport Contact (6 I think) on my type R and whilst they were awesome tyres, didn’t last 2 minutes.

Currently shopping for wheels as well, man maths tells me I might as well if I’m changing tyres plenty of interest free options to take advantage of an it means I can add tyres onto the deal.


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[davc]

I would get those wheels rotated, front for back, to try to even out the tyre wear before you bin them at 1.6mm - 2mm.

You can't.

The front wheels are 9" 265/30/19 ET25 and the rears are 8" 245/35 ET46

 

[Daggerit]

You can't.

The front wheels are 9" 265/30/19 ET25 and the rears are 8" 245/35 ET46

Exactly this.


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[garethdj]

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[monkeyhanger]

As a track tyre, Bridgestones are meant to be very good, but they need to be very warm to be decent - the kind of warm you're only going to get when flinging your car around a track - how many of us take their cars on a track? Goodyear and Michelin every time for me.

 

[Daggerit]

As a track tyre, Bridgestones are meant to be very good, but they need to be very warm to be decent - the kind of warm you're only going to get when flinging your car around a track - how many of us take their cars on a track? Goodyear and Michelin every time for me.

I had a look at one of his other videos where he tested the Bridgestone on track with a Golf GTI along with some other tyres. The Bridgestone basically came apart and lost 40% of it's tread over something like 9 laps, versus the Michelin and Goodyears that were being tested against that were like 6 or 10% if I remember rightly. So I don't know if they're even ideal in hot track conditions either if that's anything to go by.

 

[garethdj]

I had a look at one of his other videos where he tested the Bridgestone on track with a Golf GTI along with some other tyres. The Bridgestone basically came apart and lost 40% of it's tread over something like 9 laps, versus the Michelin and Goodyears that were being tested against that were like 6 or 10% if I remember rightly. So I don't know if they're even ideal in hot track conditions either if that's anything to go by.

Bridgestone post track…


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[Daggerit]

Bridgestone post track…


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Yeah that looks relatively consistent with what he was seeing. Looks like yours maybe tore more than his, like they were maybe a bit colder when pushed maybe? But same overall effect.

No issues with them on the road when I had them on though, so not bashing the tyre overall. I do notice he seems to say that the Michelins don't feel like they turn in as well as the other tyres on test but that's the opposite to what I expereienced when changing from the Bridgestones so I don't know if that maybe depends on the car a little as well as the tyre.

 

[garethdj]

Yeah that looks relatively consistent with what he was seeing. Looks like yours maybe tore more than his, like they were maybe a bit colder when pushed maybe? But same overall effect.

No issues with them on the road when I had them on though, so not bashing the tyre overall. I do notice he seems to say that the Michelins don't feel like they turn in as well as the other tyres on test but that's the opposite to what I expereienced when changing from the Bridgestones so I don't know if that maybe depends on the car a little as well as the tyre.

It was a pretty short circuit which I think contributed to that as well.

Interestedly it looks like the Goodyear Aysm 6 isn’t available in 265 profile (from a brief search).

I was certain that I searched and found it a couple of weeks ago but maybe not!

So might be a choice between PS4S and Contis.

Interesting that he included the PS5 which is not an S variant so in theory isn’t a direct competitor to some of those.


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[rngDeadeye]

I put some Khumos on my wife 130i on recommendation - as usual, I should have just stuck to my own advice as they were not a good road tyre.

However, we put some Winters wheels on the 130i and I put her wheels on my track car. (E36 328i) and once they'd had a kicking for a couple of laps, they were actually pretty good.

 

[rngDeadeye]

Sadly they didn't help when some grunt hit me at right angle on the apex at Bedford a month later.

 

[Mike.46]

I do notice he seems to say that the Michelins don't feel like they turn in as well as the other tyres on test but that's the opposite to what I expereienced when changing from the Bridgestones so I don't know if that maybe depends on the car a little as well as the tyre.

My first R8 had P Zero fitted, the turn in (or messing about missing potholes etc) was neck jarring for the passenger, really could be very aggressive, With all the P4S hype I swapped to those when the P Zero wore out.
It was very noticeable that the P4S did lose that aggressive turn in, IMHO on the R8 the P Zero suited the car better

 

[Daggerit]

My first R8 had P Zero fitted, the turn in (or messing about missing potholes etc) was neck jarring for the passenger, really could be very aggressive, With all the P4S hype I swapped to those when the P Zero wore out.
It was very noticeable that the P4S did lose that aggressive turn in, IMHO on the R8 the P Zero suited the car better

Interesting that it's different on different cars (or just subjective maybe). For me it's almost like the sidewall is stiffer or something, and it reduced the very initial roll due to the tyre deforming so made it feel sharper. I like them, but I'm sure others have their own preferences too. I think things have changed a lot over the past decade or so and you don't really get massively 'bad' tyres anymore anyway and a lot is down to your personal preference, proper economy tyres aside.

 

[garethdj]

Sadly they didn't help when some grunt hit me at right angle on the apex at Bedford a month later.
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Ouch


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[flybynite]

Michelins are renowned to have a softer sidewall which will give less sharp turn in. That is exactly why I put them on the 8v. The car is quite harsh to me and the PS4Ss take the edge of it and make the car a bit more usable and compliant.

 

[garethdj]

I put some Khumos on my wife 130i on recommendation - as usual, I should have just stuck to my own advice as they were not a good road tyre.

However, we put some Winters wheels on the 130i and I put her wheels on my track car. (E36 328i) and once they'd had a kicking for a couple of laps, they were actually pretty good.

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Had 2 sets of Khumos before, never again. First set wore out super quick, second set developed an egg in the side wall, which as far as I’m aware wasn’t due to any type of significant impact.


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[rngDeadeye]

Michelins are renowned to have a softer sidewall which will give less sharp turn in. That is exactly why I put them on the 8v. The car is quite harsh to me and the PS4Ss take the edge of it and make the car a bit more usable and compliant.

The PS4Ss are, PSSs for the win.

 

[Jaeger12]

Hi all - not the most exciting subject, I appreciate, but just wondering what level of tyre wear people have been seeing? I'm at 1 year and just over 10k miles and I'm down to 3.5mm on all four tyres. That surprised me slightly as a bit more than I was expecting (though I have been enjoying the A272), and the same on all 4 tyres whereas would have expected the fronts to be worse. I'm on the Potenzas by the way.

My old A35 somehow lasted 2 years and 20k miles on the same set of tyres and still had 2.5mm left when I got rid of it.

Slightly off topic but You might end up being the first RS3 8Y I see on the road as I drive the 272 aswell. I'm still yet to see another one.

 

[doncarlyon]

I've never had a Michelin tyre that I was impressed with. They seem to be very hyped up for no reason.

 

[Effects72]

I've never had a Michelin tyre that I was impressed with. They seem to be very hyped up for no reason.

The wifes 2l diesel Q5 came with Pirelli P zeros fitted and they lasted the grand total of 11,000 miles. The car is not driven hard at all. When I got then changed, I fitted Michelin's. These tyres have done 18,000 miles and still have 4mm tread left. Michelin's definitely wear a lot better than others, in my experience anyway.