Blackwhite
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We have loads of these at work They are nice to drive !
(But shhhhh - they are a Renault Kangoo in origin )
I had a 6-sp Manual S3 8P, and enjoyed that when I had it.
To get the best out of my S3 8V DSG, I've had to learn how to "drive the gearbox" (which can detract from driving the car). Small tricks like easing off the accelerator before paddling down, gives an instantaneous downshift etc.
The box still gets it wrong for 5% of the time, but the remainder of the 95% of the time, it behaves. And then I occasionally have to ignition reset my car when it doesn't behave etc.
I am undecided what my next car will have. Hopefully it'll be one of these
Anyone with manual have issue putting in first sometimes?
After stopping at lights usually, just won't go in foot to the ground.
1000 miles in and happened 3-4 occasions.
If go to 3rd then back to 1st usually sorts it.
Anyone with manual have issue putting in first sometimes?
After stopping at lights usually, just won't go in foot to the ground.
1000 miles in and happened 3-4 occasions.
If go to 3rd then back to 1st usually sorts it.
Well I have to disagree with you big time, we bought a brand new A1 Style for my wife last year with 122bhp engine and S-Tronic and it's a little pocket rocket, no way is it gutless in any way shape or form
Do 40,000 miles a year with the 8 speed ZF and you will find actually its an inferior box compared to the s-tronic.Have to agree with HawkeyeS3 the 122 bhp A1 I ran for two years was a pocket rocket. Great fun and the size and S-Tronic was perfect for my job at the time. Eased the pain of moving from 2.0 litre+ cars with 200 bhp+.
Would love the 8 speed ZF gearbox in my current car in an A3 or A4 sized Audi S or RS. Fab gearbox and reversing is so much more controllable and smoother.
That feedback is good news for persuading the SO we really need an Audi S or RS next time round ;-)Do 40,000 miles a year with the 8 speed ZF and you will find actually its an inferior box compared to the s-tronic.
They both have their quirks but for me its just not as smooth or quick to change up. The Merc 7 speed is just as good too.
. Today drove home using the stick after being reminded on here that you could. It felt very intuitive and natural and was like being at the wheel of a touring car. I.
^ being the faster and better handling car, of course
(hey, you mentioned it first )
Too much badge snobbery on this forum for that to happen
expect that the +/- is in the wrong direction, nothing intuitive about pushing forward to go up a gear, that's why racing sequential boxes and even drag racing boxes are the opposite. - ie pull back to go up a gear. - rarely ever touch the stick for that reason, just use the paddles.
would like to know the reason why, some Audi engineer decided to change it ?
No Audi engineer. The DSG was originally designed as a joint venture between VW and Borg-Warner. Personally I think they made the right choice.
What would I have chosen if the s-tronic had not been available. Having only driven a ordinary auto many years ago and an A4 with a multitronic, both of which were horrible I have no idea. If the chose was between a multitronic and a manual then it would have been a manual. If Audi had not offered the s-tronic but did offer the 'ZF 8-speed' I would have tried it and then decided.
Just out of interest the new A4 when it comes out later this year is going to offer a 9-speed s-tronic.
Hi again guys. And that after learning to drive on my Dad's Holden Premier station wagon auto, which was like driving a bathtub with wheels!! .