you would think it would have been available from launch. **** poor audi **** poorI was told September, but i trust audi about as far as i could throw them, so who knows if thats going to be accurate or not.
i was hoping for the sign recognition. i have matrix leds and the rear cameraAudi like everyone have only just got back to running production, I expect most of the issues will be sorted regarding the MMI software.
As for FOD..... strange one this as I think nearly all these updates will be for the e-versions of the VW group.... If the hardware is not on the car from production then updates will be limited to software features only, different light patterns, MMI dial layouts, lighting internal...but do not expect matrix headlights on the feature list if you have led headlights fitted!...same as a rear camera, if its not fitted then it cannot be added (after market only).... so as I have a high spec`d Edition 1 then I do not really see anything that could be useful via FOD.....and if the updates are just a silly matrix pattern to shine on the wall or pavement,,,,then I am ok just how they are.
FOD will benefit e-tron cars more......the model was borrowed from Tesla!...so it is nothing new.
I’ve been advised that this will be available at least on my car which is an S3 with comfort and sound pack.i was hoping for the sign recognition. i have matrix leds and the rear camera
No that’s part of the driver assistance pack, which i didnt spec. But have been advised it’s definitely going to be available as part of FOD, as I have the camera’s required it just needs to be enabled.i’ve got the comfort and sound pack in my edition 1, but doesn’t come with sign reconition
I heard that’s only for the e-tron. I don’t think A3’s with standard LED headlights are fitted with matrix LED hardware.I’m sure i also read that the Matrix headlights can be enabled via FOD if you have the standard ones, but I have them on mine anyway so haven’t confirmed with Audi.
If you look in your standard spec on the My Audi App you will see that is says Camera Prep for Dynamic Traffic Sign (or something like that ) with FOD - Basically all A3's have the camera fitted for Lane Assist, so apart from Driver Assistance Pack, Audi were never giving us the standard speed limits on the Sat Nav screen - Always expected people to pay later on when they realised the basic sat nav speed limits weren't showingi was hoping for the sign recognition. i have matrix leds and the rear camera
Audi have only got back into production...?? concerning the 8Y no doubt... but production hasn't stopped at all on most of their modelsAudi like everyone have only just got back to running production, I expect most of the issues will be sorted regarding the MMI software.
As for FOD..... strange one this as I think nearly all these updates will be for the e-versions of the VW group.... If the hardware is not on the car from production then updates will be limited to software features only, different light patterns, MMI dial layouts, lighting internal...but do not expect matrix headlights on the feature list if you have led headlights fitted!...same as a rear camera, if its not fitted then it cannot be added (after market only).... so as I have a high spec`d Edition 1 then I do not really see anything that could be useful via FOD.....and if the updates are just a silly matrix pattern to shine on the wall or pavement,,,,then I am ok just how they are.
FOD will benefit e-tron cars more......the model was borrowed from Tesla!...so it is nothing new.
Your having a laugh the 8y needed more testing its a facelift 8V nothing new in the 8y that the 8v had bar a gremlin filled MMI...I think those who do not drive an electric Audi will be slightly miffed at what becomes of FOD....... the only way it would work is if the A3 was sold with all the hardware fitted, reverse camera, matrix lights, HUD... even the sunroof...then charge people to activate them....so for £20 per week you get the code to open the sunroof, you dont pay it dont open!...the Matrix lights work by using 15 individual led`s to ajust the light focus, so unless Audi find a way of sending these led`s down the internet and onto your car then you are out of luck!.... most of the FOD will probably simply be the stuff you could code yourself with a decent VAG kit, but now VW have used a two step code to stop this happening, one is a vehicle code and this works with a VW code....and to be honest most of this stuff on the VAG was simple things like making videos play on the move, or turning of seat belt warnings....things Audi will nto offer via FOD.......so I do not expect much, and to be honest so far they have not even got the car software stable yet, let alone start offering things and expecting us to pay more......the app is next to useless and can give false information, I can break into the car quicker than it takes for it to unlock it!........
The biggest shame is they did not delay its release until this year, as opposed to trying to shift some last year.....the car needed more testing.
Your having a laugh the 8y needed more testing its a facelift 8V nothing new in the 8y that the 8v had bar a gremlin filled MMI...
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Your having a laugh the 8y needed more testing its a facelift 8V nothing new in the 8y that the 8v had bar a gremlin filled MMI...
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Someone asleep last year and missed covid?.... lolAudi have only got back into production...?? concerning the 8Y no doubt... but production hasn't stopped at all on most of their models
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Yes, but that gremlin filled MMI has turned out to be a huge embarrassment for Audi, leading to quite a few rejected cars. Just read the posts on here, for example, which represent a tiny proportion of A3 8Y owners. The MMI is a complex bit of kit nowadays, linked to many other subsystems. Audi should have tested it thoroughly. They didn't. And they still don't have a fix more than a year after the car was released. The former Head of Testing and QC is now probably emptying bins in Ingolstadt..Your having a laugh the 8y needed more testing its a facelift 8V nothing new in the 8y that the 8v had bar a gremlin filled MMI...
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I do not think it is software related.Yes, but that gremlin filled MMI has turned out to be a huge embarrassment for Audi, leading to quite a few rejected cars. Just read the posts on here, for example, which represent a tiny proportion of A3 8Y owners. The MMI is a complex bit of kit nowadays, linked to many other subsystems. Audi should have tested it thoroughly. They didn't. And they still don't have a fix more than a year after the car was released. The former Head of Testing and QC is now probably emptying bins in Ingolstadt..
But it's the same MMI as they install in the Q3 ....and that's been around for 2 yearsYes, but that gremlin filled MMI has turned out to be a huge embarrassment for Audi, leading to quite a few rejected cars. Just read the posts on here, for example, which represent a tiny proportion of A3 8Y owners. The MMI is a complex bit of kit nowadays, linked to many other subsystems. Audi should have tested it thoroughly. They didn't. And they still don't have a fix more than a year after the car was released. The former Head of Testing and QC is now probably emptying bins in Ingolstadt..
This has been my point with my mate who works for Audi - It's the same system as the A1/Q3 surelyBut it's the same MMI as they install in the Q3 ....and that's been around for 2 years
But it's the same MMI as they install in the Q3 ....and that's been around for 2 years
I do not think it is software related.
....I just have a feeling Audi might have used older (recycled) chips from older cars....maybe Audi fitted 2 in 5 to there cars that were older generations, ....but I am convinced the software is the easy part and therefore is stable.
This has been my point with my mate who works for Audi - It's the same system as the A1/Q3 surely
The 8y has been in production for a year...ergo and besides the 8y is not that technologically advanced compared to its rival in its class Audi have ****** up...simplesSoftware is rarely the easy part. Ask yourself how often companies like Apple and Microsoft manage to release software without any bugs? (Very, very, rarely, if ever, in my experience).
Each 8Y A3 is a network of computers, many of which are designed to fail-safe (ie to limit their function if there is any possibility of a fault). It is further complicated by the fact that each Audi is then part of a larger - always on - computer network and they seem to struggle when unable to connect to that network.
I’m sure that Audi will eventually resolve the problems that we are having. I have a feeling that software issues in cars is going to be more of a feature in all of our lives - whichever brand of car you own - as technology continues to move forwards.
All software needs a hardware of a minimum spec for it to run as specified. If Audi were to use an “older” chip without going through the usual component, system integration and user acceptance testing then this too could compromise the effectiveness of the cars systems and as you say Audi could be sued. Far more likely for Audi to stop or slow production to match supply rather than use components that did not meetthe minimum specification for the software to run as intendedVW Group use the same imported parts as everyone else, its just styled in a different way for each vehicle group.
Audi has one of the easiest MMI systems on the market, the 8V was a breeze and solid in function, but as above the software and microchip were coupled together in that time frame.....we now have a faster and more complex MMI that requires a better spec microchip in order to run it smoothly!.....as I said above the software will never be stable if Audi have used an older microchip to run the software, it will freeze or lag and basically `crash`... software is pretty easy to do as if you look at ALL cars they basically have the same layouts, 8-12" digital dash and a secondary screen central.... and the software is something that is written away from the car build and then added with all the modules needed to take the instructions from the MMI......it could be a case of a simple `plug and play` microchip (like a cpu in a pc) and can be upgraded if the car is re=called.......who knows!....but in my experience (I have worked with computers since 1995) software for these types of applications are very stable because of the safety intergration within the car electronics....some of this tech is as safe as what you would find within a cockpit of an aircraft!....it has to be otherwise Audi could be sued should the systems fail........
I have had no issues with the MMI ....600 miles into the car now, the only gripe I have is the Audi app could be better done.,,,apart from that everything is sweet!
But this is not what is happening: many of the faults are the result of lost comms (user account errors or SOS failures) or modules reporting spurious faults and / or failing to work. And, as Frizzly says above, the other category of glitches seem to be related to people using Apple Car Play.....as I said above the software will never be stable if Audi have used an older microchip to run the software, it will freeze or lag and basically `crash`.....
The software on the MMI is not running in isolation: it is part of a networked system with lots of other microcontrollers / computers communicating with one another. It is not a complete surprise that there are occassional glitches and I can quite understand the commercial decision to launch the 8Y with software that isn’t quite ready on the understanding that it can be patched later.but in my experience (I have worked with computers since 1995) software for these types of applications are very stable because of the safety intergration within the car electronics....some of this tech is as safe as what you would find within a cockpit of an aircraft!....it has to be otherwise Audi could be sued should the systems fail........
Sorry, I'm not buying any of that, as it implies that the senior technical people at Audi are complete idiots. Who in the right mind tries to force modern s/w to run on old hardware? They have simply encountered either a serious software error or an incompatibility issue (in certain circumstances) between different sub-systems. Most manufacturers are not offering certain options on current cars simply because they don't have the microchips. To put old stock in instead would just be plain stupid, and bound to backfire. No, this is an unfortunate (but avoidable) circumstances purely down to lack of testing in the early part of 2020 before the car was released, at a time when there was no microchip shortage. Btw, to say that the operating system is 'stable' is a bit naïve. Any 'minor' upgrade to an operating system (e.g. Windows, Android) can suddenly make it unstable (in certain situations) if it has not been thoroughly tested and debugged. Remember that most "software updates" are in fact bug fixes.I just have a feeling Audi might have used older (recycled) chips from older cars......kinda like running windows 10 on a computer from 2002....the cpu and mobo are not up to it!.....maybe Audi fitted 2 in 5 to there cars that were older generations, after all if 3 people say its fine and 2 say they are having issues....chances are most will think its the user not having a clue how to set it up!!........if they get recalled then so be it, they still got the sale and whilst the delay is **** for that customer, it does buy Audi more time to get the latest microchips fitted to ALL of there new models.....but I am convinced the software is the easy part and therefore is stable.
Is that for an A3? I’m still not seeing anything available for my S3.Started the car this morning and the mmi had updated it said purchases now available so I went into the app and under functions I can upgrade to high beam assist and I can install sat nav(not fitted 2 expensive as an option) from 1 euro 23 cent. I'll check it out later.
How do those prices compare to specking them on the car when it Was ordered?