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is this an oem one or an aftermarket one (S6 oem or just an aftermarket S6 looking one)... it is what stopped me from doing the mod and was even inclined to just buy ABS honeycomb mesh and make my own (still don't get why the aftermarket doesn't make those for both the S-line bumper and S4 bumpers... they do the fog lights grills so why not do the main front grille)
Its aftermarket. Advertised a6 c6. Ideally id pick up a second hand s-line grill and can then do it slow time, but I’ll end up just getting mine off and cutting and glueing same day. Probably leave it overnight and get it all back together the next day.

If someone started making the honeycomb mesh grill for the s-line and s4, they’d make a penny or two for sure!!
 
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Its aftermarket. Advertised a6 c6. Ideally id pick up a second hand s-line grill and can then do it slow time, but I’ll end up just getting mine off and cutting and glueing same day. Probably leave it overnight and get it all back together the next day.

If someone started making the honeycomb mesh grill for the s-line and s4, they’d make a penny or two for sure!!
There was a guy in germany (Ebay.DE) that was selling a really good honeycombe mesh that was very, very close to the OE type used in the RS4 B7 grilles.
I bought a sheet a some time ago , cant find his at the moment but will deep a bit deeper.
Its very possible that he doesnt send to the UK now aswell.
 
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oww i found the right honeycomb sheets already just don't get why they are so small, if they only did one in double the height size it would be me getting that and an RS4 B7 look would be made right there as it gets delivered. the biggest size is 40 by 110 and they are cheap as chips too and at that price of under 15 pounds I rather use that... than buy a complete grill at more than 3 times the price... i might just buy 2 of those ABS sheets and so i have more than enough for the main grille and do the 2 foglight grilles too. it just means I'll have to pickup an extra S-line main grille. Which i can bag cheap enough from someone breaking their car (loads of them on marketplace ;) )
 
I will need to

Sadly not that well as the ceiling is not high enough to facilitate a lift, well not one that permits good access and not bending over all the time.
I could change the celing layout but then the upstairs space may be affected and some plank fitted two ruddy long and thick beams across to support things which doesn't help.
https://www.garageequipment.co.uk/Vehicle-Lifts/2-Post-Lifts/2-Post-Lifts/e4g-cp230td-compact-pro

Just saw a guy who has a few cars he works on in a standard garage use one of these , could be an option :)
 
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Thanks for that info chap, looks like an ideal solution.
going to download the install details to check it will be ok.

Cheers chap

rob
 
I had my thinking cap on today, which is never a good thing...lol, I've decided to return the Luk clutch kit and CSC and look at an uprated setup.
No real reason to be honest but just covering any future engine output increase, after all , one can never have too much BHP. :yahoo:

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I had my thinking cap on today, which is never a good thing...lol, I've decided to return the Luk clutch kit and CSC and look at an uprated setup.
No real reason to be honest but just covering any future engine output increase, after all , one can never have too much BHP. :yahoo:

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Finally the hint and nudge to get an uprated clutch for more power finally took hold! Yes return it and get a beefed up SMF setup that is street and track friendly( you'll thank yourself later on)
 
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Finally the hint and nudge to get an uprated clutch for more power finally took hold! Yes return it and get a beefed up SMF setup that is street and track friendly( you'll thank yourself later on)
It was on my original engine upgrade list from many moons ago, I just scaled it all back parts-wise in one of my despondent B7 ownership sessions..
But yes, back on this now just in case I need the extra bit, I doubt I will but hey, I am always changing my mind. :whistle2: :thumbs up:
 
https://www.garageequipment.co.uk/Vehicle-Lifts/2-Post-Lifts/2-Post-Lifts/e4g-cp230td-compact-pro

Just saw a guy who has a few cars he works on in a standard garage use one of these , could be an option :)
This guy has a pretty low ceiling garage but with this lift he can raise the car enough to give him up to 1 metre clearance underneath. Yes thats not as good as a full lift but a dam sight better thenjack stands or scissor lifts. Plus these ones allow one of the uprights to be mobile so if you need to move it you can done, quite an ingenious solution and can hold 3 ton. Bonus , he also has an Audi RS4 B7 avant :)



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGzQ0KpKOUM
 
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This guy has a pretty low ceiling garage but with this lift he can raise the car enough to give him up to 1 metre clearance underneath. Yes thats not as good as a full lift but a dam sight better thenjack stands or scissor lifts. Plus these ones allow one of the uprights to be mobile so if you need to move it you can done, quite an ingenious solution and can hold 3 ton. Bonus , he also has an Audi RS4 B7 avant :)



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGzQ0KpKOUM

Thats the one indeedy, will be perfect.
 
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I wish I had the space and money for one of those. My brother recently retired but I was using his big garage one last summer to underseal my car. They are a godsend and a lot of fun. I would be very careful of SMFs on these cars; definitely get a sprung clutch too. For street driving they are pretty on and off and can be uncomfortable in traffic. The standard or uprated Luk clutches/DMFs are said to be better than the Sach equivalents and should be good for quite a lot of extra power anyway.
 
mate once you go past 350 bhp the DMF are a big failure part this is why i pointed it out earlier on. And a good street SMF will not be on off it will feel like a normal clutch especially if he goes for a double plate setup. But those are expensive (between 1 to 2k) but will feel like a normal DMF setup, and can take power up to supercar levels 650 and more depending on the materials and design of the clutch plates.
 
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Happy days!! I would never have a house without a 2-poster now. They are soooo handy for working on cars.
alright for some init? mate if i had a garage without a 2 poster lift i'd be content! but it is the way it is...
 
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mate once you go past 350 bhp the DMF are a big failure part this is why i pointed it out earlier on.
Yes understood for such high tunes, which I am no where near running; though diesels are generally tougher on clutches because of low down torque; especially if they are chipped. I changed my clutch/DMF at around 240K and only because the failed slave cylinder took it out. I have every reason to believe that was original from the records I have. In the old days I was pretty heavy on clutches; these days I like smooth, though I do a lot of controlled slip and engine braking still, mainly because of that. They're pretty tough and thrust bearings and clutch faces tend not be too much of an issue these days; they take a fair bit of slip with only the acrid burn smell being an indication of serious skim. DMF failures tend to be weeping grease now.
 
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alright for some init? mate if i had a garage without a 2 poster lift i'd be content! but it is the way it is...
More people have garages that are used for storing household overflow (junk) than for using them as an actual garage for a car or similar vehicle.

They have their uses but many are just damp places where a car would not be best parked in, all depends on what one expects to get from having a garage really.

A two post lift would be a very good purchase for myself, not just for car maintenance but for working on my tractors, etc which can be a pain at ground level sometimes, also as I'm getting older working at lower heights etc can be difficult so logical answer is a lift.
 
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Are you a farmer then Rob? Many a classic barn find to be found there:thumbs up:
 
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Are you a farmer then Rob? Many a classic barn find to be found there:thumbs up:
Not as such but might as well be sometimes.. :whistle2:
Lots of nice bits tucked away in barns indeedy.:yahoo:
 
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A week on from the wheel project and nice weather prompted leaving them outside to harden off more in some warm sunshine.
In daylight they look ok, not my best work to be honest but will suffice, probably a 6 out of 10, with a couple of small clear coat runs and a small speckle on one rim.

Probably down to working in low light and missing some bits with the spray gun etc, anyway, they will be ok as I expect with the road in the state they are damage is inevitable with a few months of fitting.
Worse case I have paint and clearcoat left over so won't be the end of the world if something need redoing.

Will need to find a single center cap too, 3 cleaned up great but the 4th is a nonstarter
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A week on from the wheel project and nice weather prompted leaving them outside to harden off more in some warm sunshine.
In daylight they look ok, not my best work to be honest but will suffice, probably a 6 out of 10, with a couple of small clear coat runs and a small speckle on one rim.

Probably down to working in low light and missing some bits with the spray gun etc, anyway, they will be ok as I expect with the road in the state they are damage is inevitable with a few months of fitting.
Worse case I have paint and clearcoat left over so won't be the end of the world if something need redoing.

Will need to find a single center cap too, 3 cleaned up great but the 4th is a nonstarterView attachment 274770.
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They look fantastic rob, far better job than I could have done, think you are being too hard on yourself.
 
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They look fantastic rob, far better job than I could have done, think you are being too hard on yourself.
Thanks chap, maybe I am but sometimes one just gets a final finish and effect in mind which can be a tad more difficult to replicate and possible as a DIY project.
 
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Fab news, obviously it goes without saying that when installed its an open house in surrey ? :) How about a B7 mini meet that you were organising but at yours :)
But i'd need to charge an entrance fee and that just wouldn't be cricket..lol
 
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for a diy job that is more than decent! i know about people using garages for storage... i just happen to not be in a property that has one because if i did i would sort it out and turn it into a decent home workshop i got most of the tools already, but live deemed it for me to downsize, so be it i'm not hating on anyone :yes: and not the youngest myself so i get where you are coming from.
 
But i'd need to charge an entrance fee and that just wouldn't be cricket..lol
I dont anyone would mind contributing £1 to the old bus upgrade project.. but it would be offset by us all being able to use your new lift :)
 
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I dont anyone would mind contributing £1 to the old bus upgrade project.. but it would be offset by us all being able to use your new lift :)
I like your thinking Swisstony - but it might get quite pricey nonetheless (huge entrance fee, free lift?) for us more gelded economically than gilded, not to mention the cue.:pride:
 
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I dont anyone would mind contributing £1 to the old bus upgrade project.. but it would be offset by us all being able to use your new lift :)
I'm thinking that by going the lift route it may be a better option to do the engine work I have in mind rather than removing the engine, which was my initial plan but i really dont fancy all the work involved , whereas the clutch can be done from below with a lift , same with the sump of oil pump work etc.

Just trying to get it all done with the least amount of stress and strain as I'm doing it alone.
 
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Most indy garages will charge £1500 for a Quattro clutch change alone, so if one crunches the numbers, the labour cost saved from all the work I'm planning would more than cover the lift bill.
Its effectively free based on garage labour saving.
 
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Most indy garages will charge £1500 for a Quattro clutch change alone, so if one crunches the numbers, the labour cost saved from all the work I'm planning would more than cover the lift bill.
Its effectively free based on garage labour saving.
My FWD oil burner cost £1800 recently but that was both clutch and DMF, which there is no point normally not doing; so you might save even more. Local trusted garage, I've used for a few years who are always up with the best price too. AA parts and Garage clawed back 500 quid but I could have done without it nonetheless. Still it lasted a long while, so that's the thing with old motors.
 
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As much as fitting the lift appears straight forward, in reality its a bit more involved in regards to securing the posts in place.

I suspect my garage floor is only a thin screed and way to thin to provide a secure base to mount the uprights, so will need to excavate two new pits and backfill with concrete to provide a secure anchor point, really not a good idea to skimp in this dept.
Not a big deal but just an add on job that others maynot require.
 
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As much as fitting the lift appears straight forward, in reality its a bit more involved in regards to securing the posts in place.

I suspect my garage floor is only a thin screed and way to thin to provide a secure base to mount the uprights, so will need to excavate two new pits and backfill with concrete to provide a secure anchor point, really not a good idea to skimp in this dept.
Not a big deal but just an add on job that others maynot require.
Best bet is to do a little testing by drilling To see the thickness but at least you have a plan on how to overcome the issue
 
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My FWD oil burner cost £1800 recently but that was both clutch and DMF, which there is no point normally not doing; so you might save even more. Local trusted garage, I've used for a few years who are always up with the best price too. AA parts and Garage clawed back 500 quid but I could have done without it nonetheless. Still it lasted a long while, so that's the thing with old motors.
What? F that! this is why i do all maintenance and repairs myself!And i don't even have a garage i do all this stuff outside. But 1800? You could have bought another one with less mileage and a full years MOT for that, and guess what? It would be a diesel s-line quattro in very good condition.
 
What? F that! this is why i do all maintenance and repairs myself!And i don't even have a garage i do all this stuff outside. But 1800? You could have bought another one with less mileage and a full years MOT for that, and guess what? It would be a diesel s-line quattro in very good condition.
No doubt you are right, but a) This car is sorted with superb bodywork; no rust and reliable now; I know it inside out; every 'new' second hand motor, no matter the condition is an unknown quantity, especially at 15 years + - I reckon you have to set aside £2000 for the inevitable on top with any of them; b) they are all high mileages now, a clutch can go on any one of them at any time, it is really a service item - the old one lasted well beyond time; now the new one is good for many thousands more of miles; c) I don't want a Quattro; the FWDs have a 7 litre bigger fuel tank and more economical anyway and I like to schlep down to Spain long haul -every bit helps; never found handling issues in this car in any weather; only with summer tyres, in winter getting up my drive once; Cross-climates sorted that. Quattro's need such tyres in such conditions too. d) Everything is cheaper and simpler on a base 140 2.0 TDI; e) I know this car has the KBM sorted for life oil pump and the helicoil timing belt idler sorted because I did them; it doesn't use any water and just one quart of oil between services; f) A/C and heater matrix sorted ice cold and nice and warm when needed; g) Me and this car...well we've been through a lot, me and her, over many thousands of miles round Europe and she never really let me down; only once with a small pipe at 35 euros; and to her shame too - they say you shouldn't never get attached but there we go; h) Should I go on... you do you friend and I'll do me :)
 
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No doubt you are right, but a) This car is sorted with superb bodywork; no rust and reliable now; I know it inside out; every 'new' second hand motor, no matter the condition is an unknown quantity - I reckon you have to set aside £2000 for the inevitable on top with any of them; b) they are all high mileages now, a clutch can go on any one of them at any time, it is really a service item - the old one lasted well beyond time; now the new one is good for many thousands more of miles; c) I don't want a Quattro; the FWDs have a 7 litre bigger fuel tank and more economical anyway and I like to schlep down to Spain long haul -every bit helps; never found handling issues in this car in any weather; only with summer tyres, in winter getting up my drive once; Cross-climates sorted that. Quattro's need such tyres in such conditions too. d) Everything is cheaper and simpler on a base 140 2.0 TDI; e) I know this car has the KBM sorted for life oil pump and the helicoil timing belt idler sorted; doesn't use any water and jus one quart of oil between services; f) A/C and heater matrix sorted ice cold and nice and warm when needed; g) Should I go on... you do you friend and do me :)
I would diy if you look at my cars diary you'll soon notice i am the same... but 1800 f-that I'll do that myself... and I have since mine is a fwd S-tronic bought with gearbox problems... fixed it myself. But bought a replacement TMC as my soldering had mysteriously gone wrong(probably got the wrong solder type send) anyway if I had that done by audi I would have bought another car period. Even the independent audi specialist were asking way to much.

Again I don't handover stupid money to any garage... there isn't anything a mechanic can do that I'm not capable of myself. I only pay for mot's and tire fitting.

The rest nope I'll sort it myself... f those prices.
 
Again I don't handover stupid money to any garage... there isn't anything a mechanic can do that I'm not capable of myself. I only pay for mot's and tire fitting.

The rest nope I'll sort it myself... f those prices.
Good for you but I don't really care mate. I don't have neither the space nor the facility to do my own stuff and my back is bad now - I used to do it years ago. I have not paid stupid prices though normally. My brother's in the trade - he had a body shop and most of the cosmetic bodywork was done free and most of the big mechanical stuff at trade parts only; as cheap as I could do myself. With this clutch I have moved down to the Midlands a few years ago from the North so I had to get it done locally; most stuff if I can get it up north will be done at cost. Case in point, next week or the week after he's doing all new discs for me. The car cost 1500 quid 6 years ago and trust me it was this clutch that was the biggest expense which actually cost around 1300 as I got 500 back from the AA. Believe me it's been a pretty smooth ride in both cost and reliability.
 
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Good for you but I don't really care mate. I don't have neither the space nor the facility to do my own stuff and my back is bad now - I used to do it years ago. I have not paid stupid prices though normally. My brother's in the trade - he had a body shop and most of the cosmetic bodywork was done free and most of the big mechanical stuff at trade parts only; as cheap as I could do myself. With this clutch I have moved down to the Midlands a few years ago from the North so I had to get it done locally; most stuff if I can get it up north will be done at cost. Case in point, next week or the week after he's doing all new discs for me. The car cost 1500 quid 6 years ago and trust me it was this clutch that was the biggest expense which actually cost around 1300 as I got 500 back from the AA. Believe me it's been a pretty smooth ride in both cost and reliability.
That makes sense to me now, not saying the clutch on your car was cheap or whatever... but I get my parts mostly at cost price or less than that... but I'll be dammed to pay the prices they charge now. And I work outside on the street. As I said before... not the youngest either and also suffer from my back. But I won't be paying garages those prices... it takes me longer to do stuff now because of my back and age... but I simply refuse to pay that much money put for a job.. ps I looked up a full clutch kit with dmf and csc.
Yeah the price is about right for the parts, back than, now though that should be around 700 pounds full price. Anything more for an oem clutch kit with DMF and csc is a rip off.
 
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Another day and a few more bits arrived for the engine work.
I can honestly say that £22.00 for these 3 o-rings the size of a 10p is just bonkers but needs must, there were cheaper ones on fleabay but most had less than ideal comments on quality, but I expect they all come from the same far east factory anyway.
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Putting the clutch assembly to one side as I have not decided on a suitable upgrade yet, that's all I need now to do the camshaft adjuster/tensioner/chain overhaul and the oil pump mod .

Just waiting on a new oil cooler seal to address that pesky leak .

Then work out what order to do it all, in a one-shot job along with the new turbo kit, etc or initially do the above smaller jobs as they are more important.
 
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changing the subject to tyres, i found a seller on the interwebs doing new inc del

Bridgestone Potenza S 001 XL FSL - 235/35R19 91Y for £122 each , now that's seems a good deal


I may snap up 4 at that price, I used to have Potenzas on my spec B legacy and they were very good allrounders.
 
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