Sportback discounts

For me it’s simple supply & demand.

The Dealerships are franchise so they will want to sell the same number of cars if not more - to cover overheads & make profit.

The pre FL RS3 had a waiting time of 7 to 8 months for well over a year. I ordered 6 months after initial deliveries & my lead time was 7 months. The wait times currently are already way under that.

I can’t see them going up any time soon if sales are slumping & it would be madness to push prices up further - they will just over price the RS3 completely if they make it any dearer than it is & I think the £5k price hike over the pre FL effectively covers this in any case, as that was a huge increase.

Next year I think we will see both bigger discounts & run out special edition RS3’s such as a black edition & maybe items such as those elusive bucket seats introduced.
 
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For me it’s simple supply & demand.

The Dealerships are franchise so they will want to sell the same number of cars if not more - to cover overheads & make profit.

The pre FL RS3 had a waiting time of 7 to 8 months for well over a year. I ordered 6 months after initial deliveries & my lead time was 7 months. The wait times currently are already way under that.

I can’t see them going up any time soon if sales are slumping & it would be madness to push prices up further - they will just over price the RS3 completely if they make it any dearer than it is & I think the £5k price hike over the pre FL effectively covers this in any case, as that was a huge increase.

Next year I think we will see both bigger discounts & run out special edition RS3’s such as a black edition & maybe items such as those elusive bucket seats introduced.

I agree, if Scott is right and they're not replacing the rs3 over the next 2yrs then discounts will be introduced, and not only that more parts as standard with each coming model year,

If there not gonna discount it and they announce a new model for 2020/2021 then might as well wait as my pcp is 18 month off anyway!

I definitely want an RS though I've looked at all sorts and they all have more cons than pros! The A45 for example is quite dated I think an awful dashboard and screen! Bmws whilst nice lose money hand over fist and mercs seem pretty dated!
I'd have a Porsche macan but my customers wouldn't be amused so that's that idea out, least he RS3 blends in somewhat

Oh and that noise
 
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I don’t think Audi are too concerned about the UK sales dipping, they are focusing more in the ever-growing **** and American markets that are worth more to them and investing heavily in those areas. Nothing will be better in terms of discounts in six months, probably the opposite. Now is the time to strike! It’s no secret that the last quarter of the year is the dealers slowest time for sales and traditionally the period when they are more likely to offer a better deal if only to hit end of year targets which can sometimes be more important to them than actually turning a decent profit, as was the case with my dealer. We can easily work out that the demand for the FL RS3 is not what Audi had hoped for, if it was then no dealer would need to discount it so soon, especially when they have very limited allocation. With sales falling sharply this year and expected to continue throughout next year too, Audi will of course review sale targets they expect of dealers in 2018 and lower accordingly. This could mean dealers not under as much pressure to meet those targets and less reluctant to give discounts. Only weeks ago Worcester Audi were giving many people on this forum discounts of around 5% on the RS3 and now they are telling people they are no longer discounting the RS3/TTRS??

Also consider this, since the EU referendum in June last year, Ford & Vauxhall (like many other manufacturers) have been increasing prices on their entire range almost on a monthly basis and the CEO's of each blamed the devaluation of sterling as the reason. The best 3 selling cars in the UK (Fiesta, Corsa & Focus) have all increased in price by over 20% compared to what they would have cost you only June last year. Last time Audi increased their prices across the range (average 2%) due to exchange rate fluctuation was in 2010 and it was nowhere near as bad then as it is now. At current exchange rates, the base price of the RS3 is £4,000 more in Germany, they also do not get any of the below equipment as standard like us in the UK or anything else to make up for it, it's all optional ....

Heated front seats - €340
DAB radio - €300
Virtual cockpit - €310
Audi smartphone interface - €350
Connectivity package - €890
Audi connect 3 years subscription - €350
Audi sound system - €255
Auto dimming interior mirror - €255
Heated exterior mirrors - €125
Cruise control (just standard not adaptive) - €300
MMI navigation plus with MMI touch - €2490

That’s €6000/£5,000 of extras we get included. So if you factor that in too, it means the car is a massive £9,000 cheaper here in the UK than the country they are manufactured in! Why should this be so? They even pay slightly less VAT than us.

If no real progress is made between the UK and EU by end of March next year on Brexit, then it’s accepted by both the EU and UK government that we will likely leave the EU in March 2019 without a trade deal as six months will not be enough time to negotiate a deal and they need at least six months to ratify any agreements before we officially leave the EU. This is when the £ is likely to nosedive further and when Audi are likely to hike their prices, I expect by at least 3% as they will not be able to sustain current prices with a further weakening £. If this is the eventual outcome, then it will be bad news for those of us who want to buy an imported car from the EU from April 2019 as it will mean 10% tariff’s, pushing the base price of the RS3 to £50k+, but maybe good news for current owners who will see their cars residuals remain very strong.

Strong residual value is pointless if replacement costs are so high. Audi discount matrix altering next year which is not good. Brexit is the big problem and lack of financial stability and lack of confidence in the Tory government. Trying to avoid political statements and sticking to evidence based fact.


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Mind you, weak STG/strong Euro wold help keep German cars at a premium which should help matters. Overall, if this continues, less German cars will be affordable.
 
Got some clarifications from audi regarding the model,

They have no plans to withdraw the model from sale within the next 2yrs and the next model will be due 2021, they also say the rs3 is the halo model and will always run a incarnation of the 2.5 engine as it sets it apart from its competitors and from the s3, as I said I would be ordering in the next 12 month will standard spec change and they said probably not,
 
Got some clarifications from audi regarding the model,

They have no plans to withdraw the model from sale within the next 2yrs and the next model will be due 2021, they also say the rs3 is the halo model and will always run a incarnation of the 2.5 engine as it sets it apart from its competitors and from the s3, as I said I would be ordering in the next 12 month will standard spec change and they said probably not,


That would make sense and stack up.

If a new platform A3 is due 2019 then S3 2020 and RS3 2021.

I will be ordering a new car Aug / Sept next year so I will see what the deals are then too.
 
Got some clarifications from audi regarding the model,

They have no plans to withdraw the model from sale within the next 2yrs and the next model will be due 2021, they also say the rs3 is the halo model and will always run a incarnation of the 2.5 engine as it sets it apart from its competitors and from the s3, as I said I would be ordering in the next 12 month will standard spec change and they said probably not,
Who at Audi told you that? I can't believe they'd tell a regular punter such information, certainly not guaranteed.
 
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That would make sense and stack up.

If a new platform A3 is due 2019 then S3 2020 and RS3 2021.

I will be ordering a new car Aug / Sept next year so I will see what the deals are then too.

Well it's natural that as time goes on they will have to introduce special editions or more standard kit or bigger discounts all other rs products have decent discounts so this will be the same
 
Who at Audi told you that? I can't believe they'd tell a regular punter such information, certainly not guaranteed.

I have a friend that works within the vag group who emailed audi uk
 
Well it's natural that as time goes on they will have to introduce special editions or more standard kit or bigger discounts all other rs products have decent discounts so this will be the same

Totally agree.
If the RS3 is gonna be on sale for another 2 years there will be an abundence of supply and big discounts to be had.
If they garnish this with more standard kit, new options and special run out models that could be very appealing.
 
My crystal ball still says short run and it will stop eg 12 months.

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My crystal ball still says short run and it will stop eg 12 months.

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Maybe it was a one off last time with pre FL & production cut short.

We have hatch & saloon variants this time & it will be a total run out model ... before the replacement / new platform for the 8v is introduced in 2019.

Cut it short & there will be a looooong wait till the RS3 new platform arrives circa 2021.
 
Yeah I agree, I also reckon the next RS3 will be around 2021. As much as I love my RS3, I doubt I could keep a car that long. I'll probably have to see if I can pick up a secondhand Veyron on the cheap in the meantime.

Joking aside, the RS3 is a difficult car to replace. At the same price point, what offers the same all weather pace, noise/drama and quality interior?
 
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Maybe it was a one off last time with pre FL & production cut short.

We have hatch & saloon variants this time & it will be a total run out model ... before the replacement / new platform for the 8v is introduced in 2019.

Cut it short & there will be a looooong wait till the RS3 new platform arrives circa 2021.
I'm not sure that Audi care though Snake. Why did they cut production last time, they could have kept it running right through until the FL was announced?

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I'm not sure that Audi care though Snake. Why did they cut production last time, they could have kept it running right through until the FL was announced?

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I'll be quite happy for them to continue the production run for the FL. Will make my PFL a bit more desirable in 50yrs time!
 
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Got some clarifications from audi regarding the model,

They have no plans to withdraw the model from sale within the next 2yrs and the next model will be due 2021, they also say the rs3 is the halo model and will always run a incarnation of the 2.5 engine as it sets it apart from its competitors and from the s3, as I said I would be ordering in the next 12 month will standard spec change and they said probably not,

I’d have doubts that the orders will still be open in 6 months time, let alone 12.
 
I was told production would be limited, my dealer is already being told, his allocation is coming to an end with no sign of it starting back up, I know the price and market of these cars naturally limits the amount they sell to a point, but Audi like to keep the RS cars as exclusive as they can, have a look on howmanyleft.co.uk

I'd be very surprised if you can still order one in 6-12 months let alone in 2 years.
 
Hmm Dealer saying Production limited to get a sale.

Call me sceptical but :)


 
Doubt it bud, He is a good friend, and my order had long been placed.

In which case no reason to suspect he is bulling.
It may be the case then & another limited run.
I guess time will tell.
Don't get it though if they do cut the production short as will not provide any continuity for RS buyers in this sector.
I always thought the RS4 / 5 / 6 / 7 were constantly available once introduced .. is that not the case ?
 
In which case no reason to suspect he is bulling.
It may be the case then & another limited run.
I guess time will tell.
Don't get it though if they do cut the production short as will not provide any continuity for RS buyers in this sector.
I always thought the RS4 / 5 / 6 / 7 were constantly available once introduced .. is that not the case ?

Not 100%, but I thought all RS products were production limited (Not sure on the exact figures). Guess the higher end RS products which come in around the £80k+ mark are more of a niche, so maybe they are less in demand? I mean if I had £100k as much as I LOVE the RS6, I wouldn't buy one.
 
Not 100%, but I thought all RS products were production limited (Not sure on the exact figures). Guess the higher end RS products which come in around the £80k+ mark are more of a niche, so maybe they are less in demand? I mean if I had £100k as much as I LOVE the RS6, I wouldn't buy one.


I will start to research the market summer next year so will see what is around then.
Could be another S5 for me then or an S4 ... unless I defect to VW or Merc :)
 
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I too will just keep an eye I'm on no rush and if they do cut production short then that's what they do, time will tell
 
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Just sent you a PM with the contact details of the sales person at Preston Audi.

Although in the end I did not buy with Preston Audi as another dealer trumped the discount offered by them just an hour before I was about to conclude the deal with Preston with a £5275 discount (9.5%) that has since risen to £6220 (just over 11%) because I realised only afterwards like some others on this forum the dealer did not invoice me for the additional £400 tax that is levied on the upgraded alloys/tyres and since told me I won't have to worry about it. They also applied £545 discount for the 'sport pack' which wasn't available at the time I ordered.

Hi.
Preston Audi is nearest to me, could you please provide details of who you dealt with?
On Friday there were 2 rs3 sb and 1 rs3 saloon there. If there was approx 9% discount I'd be very interested.
Steve.
 
Anybody else had any recent luck, on carwow im getting offered 3.3% is that the best I'm going to do?
 
We have to stop Brexit or the cost of EU mainland cars will become prohibitively high. Sales are down and prices aren't being increased to the full extent of the Brexit devaluation.

You know what to do... stop Brexit save £50,000,000,000 and get our cheaper Audis back.
 
Best carwow quote for me is 4.5% from Bristol Audi. Price good until end of year.
Still rather stick with Brexit and a more expensive car though, each to their own.
 
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I reckon if brexit happens that's when good discounts will start so brexit might be a good thing
 
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Best carwow quote for me is 4.5% from Bristol Audi. Price good until end of year.
Still rather stick with Brexit and a more expensive car though, each to their own.

That's not too bad
 
I reckon if brexit happens that's when good discounts will start so brexit might be a good thing

All the evidence suggests the opposite. Forget big discounts and expect big rises until Brexit is stopped. There are no benefits of leaving the EU now for buyers of new Audis..


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All the evidence suggests the opposite. Forget big discounts and expect big rises until Brexit is stopped. There are no benefits of leaving the EU now for buyers of new Audis..


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Well the price will go up but sales will dry up then discounts will creep in
 
Afraid not Lee. Audi have huge demand in the Far East and American markets and have reason to reduce prices. That is fact reported in the motoring press. Dealers discount structures are changing and the days of big discounts are over for now. Pressure to keep down list price with a 27% devaluation of the £ due to Brexit hasn't all been put on list price. The discount structure reduction reflects this. There aren't fields of unsold cars nor are there big discounts on Audis. So what are the alleged benefits of Brexit that make higher priced Audis so attractive?? Serious question.


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I'm a supporter of Brexit but I have to agree if the £ gets trashed, that is bad for us guys importing our fancy German cars. Great if you're an exporter, mind.

If the currency does take a further knock, I might have to snap up an F-Type R!
 
“Until Brexit is stopped”

Seriously? We live in a democracy, why would it ever be stopped? Keep politics out of car forums, always ends up messy.

RS3 starts at £45k in the UK, £55k in the Netherlands and £65k in Ireland.

Advantages of being in the EU? Yep, let’s keep politics off of car forums.
 
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Can’t beleive what I’ve just read. You don’t want brexit to happen because Audi cars will be more expensive to buy.
 
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Can’t beleive what I’ve just read. You don’t want brexit to happen because Audi cars will be more expensive to buy.
That is only one minor part of Brexit nonsense that many people forget. To my mind there are no advantages to Brexit at all apart from for the very rich. Why pay £50bn+ to trade on same terms and abide by EU rules. Just stay in EU, reverse Article 50, maybe second referendum. The £ would sour back to 1.40 Euros and bingo cheaper Audis... As for politics and car forums. The main reason for this forum is indeed cars but politics comesinto everything we do and Brexit would if it had happened probably screw Audi sales and they would then be moving production away from UK market towards the Middle/Far East and America as has been well documented.

PS. Im insisting on EU plates on my RS4!
 

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